LeeU Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Well, this may come across like one of those Facebook posts where people show pics of their lunch, but I don't care. I am so psyched! My Thermal-Light shelves have finally arrived!!!! Chilly, blackthorn, Hulk and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 You will really like these. The light factor is good on the bod. especially the back Pyewackette and Piedmont Pottery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcery Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Hell yeah! Save them boxes and packing! Sorce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 congratulations! the ultimate dream material to make life easier. it's good to be happy for you. (my original comment on the status report came from the silly internet inclination to go the the most obvious thing and reported that i meant thermal light illumination bulbs and lighting accessories so i never knew they could be kiln shelves.) LeeU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) I can attest that these are wonderful. And another bit of technology I would be unwilling to be forego. Good for you! Edited December 8, 2020 by blackthorn Pyewackette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam2015 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Lee, you'll have to let us know what you think of them. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Ought to save a decent bit of energy as well or at least add some pep back into your firing. Old shelves can end up to be near half the mass of the load. Fired shelves look just the same before and after so a significant waste of energy and not even an aesthetic result. Selchie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted December 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Gotta love it!! Six----count 'em----SIX---- 25.75 inch shelves, stacked, are not that much higher than a standard computer mouse!! Pyewackette and blackthorn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted December 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 SO, what does Lee do the very first time she fires w/the Thermals? She places a business card holder down on it's glazed back instead of it's unglazed bottom. The glaze is Crystal Forest. I easily removed the crusty residue from the piece w/a Dremel. I have not touched what is on the shelf. I do not own (and don't want to get if I don't have to) an angle grinder. Would a Dremel with a light touch be OK to use on this shelf or is there something else I ought to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Paint scraper? LeeU and Pyewackette 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 If it’s bonded nitride it should scrape off and if additional cleanup is needed very light stoning or a small piece of similar shelf is what I have seen others use with great success. Pyewackette and LeeU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted December 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Thx-that's what I was hoping to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted January 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Yep--paint scraper! Isn't this a lovely sight. So EZ-this type of shelf is worth every penny. Hulk and Pyewackette 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 12/16/2020 at 9:37 PM, LeeU said: SO, what does Lee do the very first time she fires w/the Thermals? She places a business card holder down on it's glazed back instead of it's unglazed bottom. The glaze is Crystal Forest. I easily removed the crusty residue from the piece w/a Dremel. I have not touched what is on the shelf. I do not own (and don't want to get if I don't have to) an angle grinder. Would a Dremel with a light touch be OK to use on this shelf or is there something else I ought to do? Yes that will work buy any scraper will do. A rubbing stone is a easy fix as well. you can use a broken piece of any type of kiln shelve as well to rub this off. It comes right off . Th e Dremel is so small a contact area -yes it will work but just rub it off with another flat abrasive piece.-Ever a kiln post will work Pyewackette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam2015 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Lee, do these shelves not require kiln wash? If so, I think I'm sold. Nice to see how easily they it cleaned up. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bam2015 said: do these shelves not require kiln wash? If so, I think I'm sold. Bonded nitride shelves are highly glaze resistant and generally do not benefit from kiln wash. Some porcelains may flux and pluck however so folks will often kiln wash only those shelves to solve the plucking issue if they use a claybody that has this issue. Edited January 10, 2021 by Bill Kielb LeeU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayelet Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 12/6/2020 at 10:39 PM, LeeU said: Well, this may come across like one of those Facebook posts where people show pics of their lunch, but I don't care. I am so psyched! My Thermal-Light shelves have finally arrived!!!! Cool!! Where did you purchase your shelves? Directly from Bailey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just happen to remember Mark posting 'bout them/these Bailey Thermal-Lite Kiln Shelves Cone 16 - Equipment Use and Repair - Ceramic Arts Daily Community Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 The two suppliers are Bailey (they sell the German models with more rounded corners) or Advancers sold by Kilnshelve.com They are extreemly similar products so price may be the only thing that drives you to choose one over the other. Pyewackette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, Mark C. said: The two suppliers are Bailey (they sell the German models with more rounded corners) or Advancers sold by Kilnshelve.com There are actually more with Advancer being an early popular bonded nitride, Cryston (Kilnshelf.com) , Resco, Axner / Laguna (Likely Ashine - China) and others sell knock off for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price. I have personally used the knock offs (Axner) with very good results but they are not nearly as nice as true ram pressed premium versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 I bought some of the cheap thin Chinese shelves about 15 years ago, the ones with the slits in them, and they were junk. They didn't hold up as well as normal thick silicon carbide at cone 10, and continued to warp when I switched to cone 6. I've still got a couple that I use as cover shelves, and the warp is ridiculous. I don't know if they've improved since then, though. Hopefully they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 I have used the slit and the non slit chinese shevels and they have never held up. They warp and carck at cone 10. I consider them a waste of money except as top covers in the salt kiln. There they die a honered death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted January 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/25/2021 at 8:28 PM, Ayelet said: Directly from Bailey? Yes--they were awesome. Ask for Brian ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted January 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Mark C. said: price may be the only thing For me, the price difference was substantial. I have been saving for Advancers for YEARS (low fixed income), ever since John Baymore told me all about his & why they are worth the investment. Then I heard about the Thermal Lights--right here on these forums. Several of you helped me with the research & sizing for my L&L kiln. I had just about the right amount saved up by the time I ordered them & Bailey had a discount offer as well--so that was just plain thrilling. Pyewackette, oldlady, Hulk and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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