shawnhar Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Do you do it? Do you do it on purpose? Have you noticed it? I have noticed this autistic/Tourette's looking head bobbing common in the videos and wondering if this is something folks do on purpose or if this is involuntary, or some trait that develops over time. It looks like some mild form of a tick and made me wonder if folks that have it are more inclined to succeed on the wheel because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Don't know. Nome. Not, really. Perhaps more prevalent among those wearing glasses - that's glaahsses, "aah" as in car, not gleesses "eh" as in meh (I wear specs, alla time; in the studio, office lens - range closest to about 4 feet - works well). :| "In our studio, no one noticed." "Some potters nod – others do not." “It’s a feeling that’s very similar to being at the mercy of a wonderful drug, except in this case, it’s a holistic antidepressant.” "...can also be a 'more potter than thou' sort of a thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 have seen this as well. lots of very good potters, i liken it to the way figure skaters focus when doing repetitive spins. just something that happens. looking forward to an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 I do it to gauge thickness and depth, easier to see than when you're keeping your head in one place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhar Posted March 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Interesting, so Liam, you do it on purpose? Does it feel "natural" and just sort of happens, or is something you have to make a conscience effort to do? Maybe my pots wobble enough I don't need it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Never been a noodder myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, shawnhar said: Interesting, so Liam, you do it on purpose? Does it feel "natural" and just sort of happens, or is something you have to make a conscience effort to do? Maybe my pots wobble enough I don't need it, lol. Just happens. I notice myself doing it when pulling the walls, it's worse on bowls than mugs. I'm on autopilot with mugs though. I have weak vision in my left eye so depth perception is sometimes hard for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, liambesaw said: Just happens. I notice myself doing it when pulling the walls, it's worse on bowls than mugs. I'm on autopilot with mugs though. I have weak vision in my left eye so depth perception is sometimes hard for me Have you tried placing a mirror at the backside of your wheel so you don't have to nod (or do the "taco bend") to gauge your shape or angle. I've done it and it works wonders for relieving the pain in the neck from bending syndrome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yep I have a mirror on the wall across from me! I have to move it now though, my new wheel is like 6 inches taller! Taking some getting used to, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 I like the nod, there is a rhythm to it. Who throws rock solid still. Just kidding, bad habit I guess but it does loosen me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Never heard of nodding. Really strikes me as weird. . . .now, I talk to my pots, always have. .. . listen to the timbre of the echo feedback, certain tones seem to be right, without breaks in curve, lost pulls or poor thickness. Love when the pot is inflated to max and just about to collapse. Oh well, at least I am not a nodder. . .. . best, Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Well Pres: I talk to clay. I ask it questions. The really bad news: it usually answers. ( and I nod my head listening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 I think "nod" is the wrong word. It's more of a wobble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 I think it’s the true origination of the bobble head doll. Now who doesn’t like those things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 So...do y'all wobble consistant with the wheel rotation or oposite to the direction of spin? Curious minds want to know. Maybe. Sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, LeeU said: So...do y'all wobble consistant with the wheel rotation or oposite to the direction of spin? Curious minds want to know. Maybe. Sort of. Mine is slight, it's just a back and forth of maybe an inch? At least that's how it feels. I'm just looking inside wall, rim, outside wall, rim, inside wall. I could see it becoming just a nervous tick though. Growing up my brother used to scratch his face a lot while playing Nintendo, but never when not playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I try to emulate Simon Leach! Seriously it’s similar to Liam where I pick a focus and move from inside to out. I must say it is not dependent on the wheel speed. My bobble head has only one speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrim8 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 Simon Leaches videos show him nodding while throwing. I thought it was involuntary. Simon Leach uses a mirror too. Pretty sure I don't nod. I pull up the pots either looking in the mirror or eyes closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mullins Pottery Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I have noticed a couple professors that have the nod. In their cases it's definitely a nod slight movement side to side but pretty dramatic movement of the head up and down. Neither of them realized that they did it when I asked about it. I sometimes move my mouth when I'm feeding the babies. It seems to be a similar relationship where an action invokes a subconscious behavior. Most of the nodders I know don't realize that they are doing it. I am as of yet not a nodder. Once I realized that for them it was subconscious I began taking note and recording myself throwing and asking whether or not I did it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 I am not a nodder. For some reason I compress my mouth a lot though. It’s involuntary, and I didn’t even notice it until I took some videos for Instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 True potter's nod is an involuntary, unconscious, slow nodding of the head caused by the rotation of the wheel. I've seen some old school potters who had it pretty bad, but I rarely see it any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnolia Mud Research Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 My observations leads me to this hypothesis: the “nodding “ potter is following a spot on the rim as the pot goes round and round on the wheel. When the potter, instead, focuses on the hands the nod disappears, unless the hands are also “nodding “. LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, Magnolia Mud Research said: My observations leads me to this hypothesis: the “nodding “ potter is following a spot on the rim as the pot goes round and round on the wheel. When the potter, instead, focuses on the hands the nod disappears, unless the hands are also “nodding “. LT Fro the ones I've seen, the nod doesn't happen at the same speed as the rotation, so I don't think they're following a spot. The nod is slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Michael Jordan often stuck his tongue out while dunking. I think famous proficient potters that nod are just fine with their proven method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhar Posted April 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 8:33 PM, neilestrick said: Fro the ones I've seen, the nod doesn't happen at the same speed as the rotation, so I don't think they're following a spot. The nod is slower. I would agree, and based on Liam's anecdotal information, I would hypothesize the nod is simply a motion that leads to better depth perception, and in Liam's case is compensatory in nature. It would be interesting to know if others that nod have visual and/or spatial acuity challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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