HeatherArtLife Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Hi friends! This wheel head is “pitted”?? It’s the Shimpo whisper alloy head and fairly new. Just a bad choice of leaving moisture on it too long. :( Can I throw on it as is?? Treatments to save it?? Thank you all! Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 You could spin it using with some fine emory cloth to smooth it if its rough. I really think its no big deal. Looks like it will not affect function at all. Pres, Magnolia Mud Research, Bill Kielb and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyn Patty Posted May 1, 2022 Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Yep, or just use 0000 steel wool on it to polish it up nicely. As Mark C says I'd just try using it first and see if it's an issue but if it is, it's not difficult at all to polish it up. If the pitting is deep enough you may need to sand it and then polish with 0000 steel wool. Or fill the pits with clear epoxy, then sand and polish. But I really don't think you need to go to all that trouble. Rae Reich and Bill Kielb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatherArtLife Posted May 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2022 Oh, thanks @marc and @Hyn Patty! Appreciate it!! Hyn Patty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 just a question for all you chemists. is this the result of hard water being used while throwing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnolia Mud Research Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 hours ago, oldlady said: just a question for all you chemists. is this the result of hard water being used while throwing? Al U Minium and Al K Li have been in a feud since the beginning. The issue here is corrosion of the metal from the wet clay body and the slips that develop during throwing sessions;, not just depositing lime from water. The alkali mostly comes from porcelain type clay bodies, but not necessarily always; depends on clay body recipes. Cast iron wheels does not have that problem (iron wheels will just become iron rusts). There are a few aluminum alloys that will not corrode in certain alkali environments, but the cost is very high. hard water will crust on the surface as lime and lime carbonate, but is not by its self a significant corrosion problem. LT Min, neilestrick and HeatherArtLife 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I have really hard water. I have to descale my kettle probably twice a month, but I’ve never known it to affect my wheelhead. To get lime scale you have to evaporate a few gallons of water, not the amount you throw with. I used to get similar discolouration when I was using a cone 10 porcelaneous stoneware, but if you clean your wheelhead it doesn’t really form. I haven’t had any since I’ve switched to red clay. If it got bad, I’d occasionally take some 220 grit black sandpaper to it, but mostly it wasn’t an issue. HeatherArtLife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 The wheel head depicted, looks like scoring, wear, and tool marks, and - but not enough surface worn away where it's easily perceptible (where it looks unflat*). Excepting that one deep scratch, it doesn't look bad at all, lots of life left. Maybe wipe if off and let it dry when you're not using it. The only time I'd take any abrasive to the wheel head (or tool, like a file or scraper) would be to remove ridges or somewhat that sticks up. What's done is done; I'm not seeing any reason to remove material to clean up the markings/pits/scratches/divots. If working directly on the wheel head, there's going to be wear. If leaving a clay pad (wet dirt), or somewhat else wet on there for days, likely there's going to be some pitting or deposition. *some of the older wheels in the local JC lab have significant wheel head wear. They don't run out (wobble up and down or shift side to side) at all, hence, they work just fine. When the material is so worn away that the head is weakened, well, that should take a while, and by then... HeatherArtLife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinR Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I can't see that being any problem. If you throw on batts you are not on the wheel head. If you throw on the wheel head there is not enough damage to matter. I have been throwing on a wheel head in much worse shape than that and have had no problem. Lin Magnolia Mud Research, Piedmont Pottery, HeatherArtLife and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 The pitting that we see there is most likely due to allowing water to dry on the wheelhead. I'm guessing that you are probably using grogged clay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatherArtLife Posted May 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 I am throwing with a "imperceptible grog" white Spanish clay. @JohnnyKYes, water and clay dried there after throwing but in a humid environment for a few days, so corroded. I´d never seen this before and sort of freaked. I will be taking MUCH better care in the future. I throw directly on the wheel but will transition to plaster bats soon... she´s my baby and I just want her sparkle back! Ha ha. Thanks EVERyONE. Adore this community. xoxo H Roberta12 and Hulk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianna Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Hi Heather, do you was able to save the wheelhead? Same situation over here! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Gosh folks, that wheel head looks like the one on my CXC, after twenty years of use. best, Pres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 @Gianna Hi and welcome! That kind of wear isn’t unusual, and a little sandpaper or very fine steel wool will remove it easily. Pres 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 I understand that one would like their wheelhead to stay shiny and new looking but the other way to look at this is to remember that it's a tool. Just like kilns they get used, it's okay for them to show some wear and tear and not remain pristine looking. Hulk, Magnolia Mud Research and Pres 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 As long as it's not so rough that it's cutting up your hands, ignore it. Pres and Magnolia Mud Research 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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