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#1 Mark C.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 03:03 PM

First let me say its been years since I have posted here and never on this new format-I have been potters council member for many years. My studio goes threw about 10 tons a year of porcelain
I'm a production potter who has just had wrist surgery and am down to only one hand for awhile.the procedure is called proximal row carpectomy-where your lower 3 bones in wrist are removed.-
its my right hand which is my dominant one.
The surgery was done by one of the top hand surgeons on the west coast at ucsf
I did get another opinion as well before going ahead with this.
Sorry about the typing/caps/etc/as its one hand type job.
My question is any potters out there who have had this done???
and if so hows the wrist working now and how long where you out?
I'm on pain meds for 3 weeks so i'm bit fuzzy.
Seems I injured my wrist 25-30 years ago and it just caught up with me the past year
Mark Cortright
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:16 PM

I have never heard of that but please keep us posted on your recovery. It sounds terrible. I had both hands operated for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome almost 30 years ago.
The recovery was slower than it is now. I am having pain in my thumbs for the last few years and wrists, shoulders...old age coming!
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:19 AM

Mark let us know how you get a long with your surgery I have carpal tunnel and a ganglia cyst in my right wrist but haven't had it fixed. I tried to have the cyst removed but when I woke up from surgery nothing had happened, they said it was to deep and involved to many bones, but that was 40 years ago. Good Luck Denice

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:39 AM

I have never heard of that but please keep us posted on your recovery. It sounds terrible. I had both hands operated for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome almost 30 years ago.
The recovery was slower than it is now. I am having pain in my thumbs for the last few years and wrists, shoulders...old age coming!
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I had carpal trouble about 15 years ago, and after reading several letters in Ceramics monthly, and in other journals, started taking B-6. It seemed to relieve the problem so I kept it up, and still have had no problems. A few years back a major study was run that debunked the use of B-6, so evidently it doesn't work, but I haven't stopped taking it. There have been several folks with the CT surgery in my area, and there has been mixed results. I have also known of one case with the surgery where some bones were removed, and the persons recovery took a long time. My son had to have wrist fused after a bike/auto accident. It really messed him up, and later the fusing separated, causing lots of pain. Tough in his line of work as he is a chef.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:05 PM

I wish you well in your recovery, mark! It must be/have been incredibly painful/bothersome and affecting your quality of life for you/your doctor to make the decision to undergo surgery.

I wouldn't compare the two surgeries, but since "carpal" has been mantioned in this conversation I wanted to add that I had the surgery on my left (primary) hand 3 years ago which went well....though it >does< take a bit of time to heal/etc. (diagnosed as "severe" and I was in surgery 3 days after the diagnosis)

The pain/inconvienence for a month or so was definitely worth losing the symptoms of numbness/tingling and my entire arm "going to sleep" each night.

hang tough, mark.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 05:22 AM


I have never heard of that but please keep us posted on your recovery. It sounds terrible. I had both hands operated for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome almost 30 years ago.
The recovery was slower than it is now. I am having pain in my thumbs for the last few years and wrists, shoulders...old age coming!
Marcia


I had carpal trouble about 15 years ago, and after reading several letters in Ceramics monthly, and in other journals, started taking B-6. It seemed to relieve the problem so I kept it up, and still have had no problems. A few years back a major study was run that debunked the use of B-6, so evidently it doesn't work, but I haven't stopped taking it. There have been several folks with the CT surgery in my area, and there has been mixed results. I have also known of one case with the surgery where some bones were removed, and the persons recovery took a long time. My son had to have wrist fused after a bike/auto accident. It really messed him up, and later the fusing separated, causing lots of pain. Tough in his line of work as he is a chef.


Not meaning to sideline the topic, but rather add a little more info to the 'wrist injury' aspect with my carpal tunnel experience.

Three years after moving here (Sweden) from the USA I began having problems with both wrists and self diagnosed Carpal Tunnel Syndrome as the malady. Coming from the US, I had known numerous people that had this and it seemed surgery was generally always the solution. So that was my thinking, though being a woodcarver, I have a fear of knives being used on me in carving techniques ....Posted Image

Upon seeing a doctor, he confirmed my suspicions but seemed puzzled when I asked what were my options. I mentioned surgery and he just laughed and said, 'we don't do that over here as it isn't reliable.' His only option it seems was to make an appointment for me to see a Physical Therapist.

A few days later, I met the PT (herself a ceramist) and she gave me two soft velcroed wrist binding/braces, which looked almost identical to what I've seen some professional bowlers use on occasion. These I was to wear while sleeping and some part of the day for a couple of weeks. Additionally she showed me a number of finger-hand-wrist-arm movement exercises that I was to do for ten minutes four or five times/day. Then after the CTS subsided, I was to continue doing these exercises two or three times per day plus was advised that when doing repetitive hand movements... like in carving, construction or working clay... to take rest stops for at least fifteen minutes every couple of hours followed by the exercises.

My CTS problems ended within two weeks of my meeting with the therapist and after nine years I can say that I have not been bothered since, even though I admit being somewhat lackadaisical about sticking absolutely to the exercise regiment. I try to though, really!

Certainly saved me lots of money (from surgery plus related costs), lost recuperation time and the trauma from being the new medium for a carving with knives! Posted Image Now if I can just keep that 'old age' that's creeping on, at bay for a couple more decades, I'll feel I have won out over the CTS.


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:37 PM

I'm out of cast past few days after a two day trip to UCSF in San Francisco doing rehab exercises 4-5 times a day with ice and heat-they are painful-surgeon said pain is my only limiting factor
Teaching my fingers/hand to move agin will be a very slow process-The tendons are very sore and now that 3 bones are gone its a bit sore as well
Its all up to me now with rehab-I'm going to occupational hand therapist twice a week now.Now the work begins-clay seems a long way off still
Thank my stars I did tons of work before surgery to feed my outlets next few months.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:51 PM

Wishing you a speedy and complete recovery, Mark. Posted Image


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:35 PM

Physical Therapy is coming right along- (its a no pain no gain deal) I can write again with a pen and starting to hold a steering wheel (truck)
I can open most doorknobs now. I can hold a spoon but hand/wrist is still very weak as tendons are still not happy-swelling is way down-I spared you all from nasty surgery photo
I can dig thru pottery boxs for galleries now ( todays chore)
I am thinking about throwing a few small bowls in next few week to help with wrist strengthening
Looks like another month or two I'll be almost good as new.
I wish I had something simple like carpel tunnel which is a east fix ( my friends say who had it fixed)
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:56 PM

I wish I had something simple like carpel tunnel which is a east fix ( my friends say who had it fixed)
.Mark


I've had surgery on both wrists for carpal tunnel and it was a breeze compared to what your problem sounds like; I was fishing after a couple of days and back at work (carpenter) in about ten.

Best wishes for your continuing recovery.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:24 AM

Physical Therapy is coming right along- (its a no pain no gain deal) I can write again with a pen and starting to hold a steering wheel (truck)
I can open most doorknobs now. I can hold a spoon but hand/wrist is still very weak as tendons are still not happy-swelling is way down-I spared you all from nasty surgery photo
I can dig thru pottery boxs for galleries now ( todays chore)
I am thinking about throwing a few small bowls in next few week to help with wrist strengthening
Looks like another month or two I'll be almost good as new.
I wish I had something simple like carpel tunnel which is a east fix ( my friends say who had it fixed)
.Mark



I just saw this thread! Wow sounds like quite the ordeal. I wish you all the best with your recovery. T

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 11:44 PM

Hi,
I had the same procedure about a year ago and I am now immobilized in a thermoplastic splint which has been removed while the therapy. My wrist Edema and pain were controlled by appropriate techniques such as edema massage, TENS, NMES, fluidotherapy, or cryotherapy.
---) My wrist is now in a good condition as I also used to get the therapy by an expert surgeon of brustverkleinerung situated nearby and gentle A.R.O.M of my wrist was initiated. R.O.M was progressing very steadily and according to my pain tolerance.
Lastly I wanted to say that the return to full duty work depends on the type of job or tasks you are planning to do.
Thanks
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:53 AM

Well it’s been one year almost to the day since I joined this forum.

I was looking for any potters who had had my type of wrist surgery a PRC

Where the first three bones in wrist are cut out and thejoint is what it is.

Well yesterday I drove to San Francisco to see my surgeon and get fresh x-rays.

She is one of the top west coast wrist and elbow jointsurgeons.

So here’s the report on my wrist-I have exceeded her expectations in movement/mobility and grip. The surgery was done January 3rd2012 on my right wrist –I now have 100 lbs grip-left hand is 140 on grip for a comparison-I’m right handed. She has never seen this much grip after a PRC-so I got a A+.

My mobility is 60% of other wrist, which is also an A+-

So I’m to baby this wrist the rest of my life as far as jarring/beating/hammering, prying but throwing pots has done wonders for recovery.

As far as over working it I have done it three times this fall and it takes about 3 weeks for the tendonitis to heal-Hey I’m a pottert during x-mass season so work goes on then with rest it gets better-no worries.

I feel it’s about 85% of what it used to be so I’m happy as one can be about this limitation. So that’s the update- full time pottery is possible after a PRC surgery.

During this year I got to know many new friends here and have shared some stuff along the way. I have talked to some of you via the phone as well as mailing some stuff out to others and mentored via skype. All this from one question asked a year ago-it’s a small world my friends.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:48 AM

Congratulations Mark. Recovering from such things takes time. Glad to hear you got A+.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:09 PM

that is great news! T

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

Thanks for the update about your surgery and rehab afterwards. It's great that you're doing so well. Congratulations on the good grade from the doctor!

Even though I mostly lurk on these forums, I always enjoy reading your posts, so I hope we will continue to hear from you.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:42 PM

First let me say its been years since I have posted here and never on this new format-I have been potters council member for many years. My studio goes threw about 10 tons a year of porcelain
I'm a production potter who has just had wrist surgery and am down to only one hand for awhile.the procedure is called proximal row carpectomy-where your lower 3 bones in wrist are removed.-
its my right hand which is my dominant one.
The surgery was done by one of the top hand surgeons on the west coast at ucsf
I did get another opinion as well before going ahead with this.
Sorry about the typing/caps/etc/as its one hand type job.
My question is any potters out there who have had this done???
and if so hows the wrist working now and how long where you out?
I'm on pain meds for 3 weeks so i'm bit fuzzy.
Seems I injured my wrist 25-30 years ago and it just caught up with me the past year
Mark Cortright
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well I didn't have that but i did have to have a bone graft on my left scaphoid (non dominant hand after fracturing it playing football and they tried to heal it without surgery at first but 8 months later they realized that i t wont work so surgery was the only option for me if i ever wanted close to the original moment I had. The surgery was a success and took 6 weeks to heal. While i couldn't do anything big i was able to do bowls with one hand still and other small things. However i don't have fully motion back and i will probably develop arthritis later in life i do have most of what i had back, though sometimes it hurts if i try to bend it in certain ways.
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