Chris Campbell Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 So, my 'original' idea of a layered bowl goes downhill quickly .... Ceramics Monthly - January 2014 - Page 16 .... someone has already been making layered bowls ... hmmmmmm Last month the image below in a facebook post by Marcia ( from Keramikart ) ... Must be some kind of Vulcan mind meld .... and I appear to be very late to the party. Anyone have a prehistoric example??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Great inventions have happened in different parts of the world at the same time. Maybe caused by cosmic rays! Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebekah Krieger Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 My husband is a fiction writer and gets irritated when someone publishes a book with a similar story line or theme that he is working on. Nothing is truly original, but I can appreciate that the painting of the horse picasso makes, is far from the picture rembrandt made of a horse. The interpretation you make of your idea is what makes it original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 The posted photo looks like an authentic "Chris Campbell ceramic" but it's merely a predecessor piece. There are some collectors of this earlier type of work, but Chris Campbell's work was the true articulation of the layered style, so highly prized among collectors. One of her pieces was recently auctioned for ɛ2.6 billion ChronoBytes. At least that's what I learned on "Antiques Roadshow" during their 2179 200th Anniversary Special. After being broadcast for 200 years "Antiques Roadshow" is now the longest running show in history. Yes Norm all this is true, but there are serious rumors of a re-animated potter who resembles Chris, furiously producing copies of that work on the underground market. Fake it til you make it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay lover Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Understand your feelings, but I think yours look very different that the pic of the impostors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 My thought is its all been done before in asia before the dawn of time at least in ceramics so its all fair game now-orginal idea? well the ones who did it 1st are all long gone. Its your idea that makes it orginal to you. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Chris, Mel Jacobsen tells a story of his apprenticeship with Ushida-san. He was the "American" at the workshop... and so supposedly was the guy with the "new fresh ideas". His sensei challeneged him to come up with a new form (on his own time at night after doing the studio work all day). Mel would come up with something at night and leave the pot on sensei's table. He said that every single time, the next day there would be a book in his work area opened to a page with that form on it. This happend for a year. best, .....................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Chris, Mel Jacobsen tells a story of his apprenticeship with Ushida-san. He was the "American" at the workshop... and so supposedly was the guy with the "new fresh ideas". His sensei challeneged him to come up with a new form (on his own time at night after doing the studio work all day). Mel would come up with something at night and leave the pot on sensei's table. He said that every single time, the next day there would be a book in his work area opened to a page with that form on it. This happend for a year. best, .....................john I've seen you tell this story before John. I think it's awesome. My students complain, when I don't let them "copy" anything. How dare I ask for creativity in an Art class!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 My students complain, when I don't let them "copy" anything. How dare I ask for creativity in an Art class!!!! Thanks... it is not my story.. and mel tells it WAY better. In case you don't know him he is a great teacher. So here is an assignment that I use all the time at the college level, Benzine. You can have them "be careful what they wish for" . It is the classic "old school" MASTER COPY. Yup... copy a piece. And when I say copy I mean a 3-D "Xerox". Everything,....... size, form, surface, firing finish, the whole deal. (Of course labeled as a copy exercise on the piece in the end.) This is an advanced level assignment. I pick the selection of possible pieces, and the students select from within that grouping I provide to them. It is not a "pick your own" approach. And there is method to the madness of the items that I select to include. And the selection is always beasd upon the particular class og specific students. They usually underestimate how VERY HARD this is going to be. They learn a TON of things, the LEAST of which is how to copy that piece. best, .................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 John you have a very warped and cruel sense of humour, must be a teacher!! Chris, this is why great teachers are not scared of sharing their knowledge, individuals' brains do different things with the knowledge given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 John you have a very warped and cruel sense of humour, must be a teacher!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Posting two images of my second round of experiments with the idea. Yes, they are different but maybe not different enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Chris your pots have a totally different presence.... alive, awakening, the other stuff is closed and dying... to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 To me the most original pottery artist was George Ohr "The Mad Potter of Biloxi". Even though he understood classical forms, he went outside the structures to define himself in his work. The controlled distortion of his forms created rhythmic patterns that few if any had tried before. It also seems that he had a quirk about repeating patterns as in the naming of his children and other things. Interesting fellow. Wyndham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFaul Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Posting two images of my second round of experiments with the idea. Yes, they are different but maybe not different enough. They remind me of Peonies blooming in the spring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I like Babs description of the contrast between yours and the other. Good eye! Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Several years ago The Christian Science Monitor wrote a long, informative series of articles on the basics of quantum physics. It was probably the best hours I have spent reading something that should have been quite daunting but in fact was reduced to more easily grasped ideas. I don't pretend to have any more than a 'toe dip' of understanding of this exciting world, but I love to know it's out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Wait a day or two and you'll know if that cat is dead! For me, it explains why so many so called 'blind test' experiments end up just as the researcher thought they would. My absolute favorite part is the possibility of reaction preceding action ... Way cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Take a look at those: Matthew Chambers in Campden gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelyne Schoenmann Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 I have seen objects like that in Vallauris at the Biennial last year. I think there are a few ceramists who try the layered object thing. Chris: I like your "test no. 2" very much. It's lively and looks like a rose in the dawn! Evelyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Coyle Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Chris; Take a look at page 16 of the latest Ceramics Monthly ( Jan 2014). picture #2 looks like a crude version of some of the things you are doing. P.S to Norm... Feynman said that anyone who said they understood quantum mechanics was lying,so I don't feel so bad about not understanding the underlying math. Anyway, thankfully the process of breaking symmetry might end up pretty bad for the cat, It can be very good in ceramics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Yes, another one! What do you call someone who copies your work before you even get the idea? "Annoying" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Don't be annoyed . . . have you considered the possibility that these pots you are seeing are actually pots made in the future -- by potters influenced by your current and yet to be produced work -- and which have been transported back to the current time by quantum leapers travelling through gaps in the time-space continuum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Coyle Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Charles Darwin & Alfred Russel Wallace came up with the idea of natural selection at about the same time. Leibniz and Newton both came up with "calculus" in the same time frame . Many times good ideas have been hit upon by more than one person working in isolation. If ideas are new to you then they are "new" even if others have tried them. You are an original Chris no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Good company to be in Bob! It does make you wonder about the power generated by ideas and how they travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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