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So, my 'original' idea of a layered bowl goes downhill quickly ....

 

Ceramics Monthly - January 2014 - Page 16 .... someone has already been making layered bowls ... hmmmmmm

 

Last month the image below in a facebook post by Marcia ( from Keramikart ) ...

 

Must be some kind of Vulcan mind meld .... and I appear to be very late to the party.

Anyone have a prehistoric example??? :P

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My husband is a fiction writer and gets irritated when someone publishes a book with a similar story line or theme that he is working on.  Nothing is truly original, but I can appreciate that the painting of the horse picasso makes, is far from the picture rembrandt made of a horse.  The interpretation you make of your idea is what makes it original.  

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The posted photo looks like an authentic "Chris Campbell ceramic" but it's merely a predecessor piece.

 

 

There are some collectors of this earlier type of work, but Chris Campbell's work was the true articulation of the layered style, so highly prized among collectors.  One of her pieces was recently auctioned for É›2.6 billion ChronoBytes.

 

At least that's what I learned on "Antiques Roadshow" during their 2179 200th Anniversary Special. After being broadcast for 200 years "Antiques Roadshow" is now the longest running show in history.

Yes Norm all this is true, but there are serious rumors of a re-animated potter who resembles Chris, furiously producing copies of that work on the underground market. Fake it til you make it !!

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Chris,

 

Mel Jacobsen tells a story of his apprenticeship with Ushida-san.  He was the "American" at the workshop... and so supposedly was the guy with the "new fresh ideas".  His sensei challeneged him to come up with a new form (on his own time at night after doing the studio work all day).

 

Mel would come up with something at night and leave the pot on sensei's table.

 

He said that every single time, the next day there would be a book in his work area opened to a page with that form on it. This happend for a year.

 

best,

 

.....................john

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Chris,

 

Mel Jacobsen tells a story of his apprenticeship with Ushida-san.  He was the "American" at the workshop... and so supposedly was the guy with the "new fresh ideas".  His sensei challeneged him to come up with a new form (on his own time at night after doing the studio work all day).

 

Mel would come up with something at night and leave the pot on sensei's table.

 

He said that every single time, the next day there would be a book in his work area opened to a page with that form on it. This happend for a year.

 

best,

 

.....................john

I've seen you tell this story before John.  I think it's awesome.

My students complain, when I don't let them "copy" anything.  How dare I ask for creativity in an Art class!!!!

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My students complain, when I don't let them "copy" anything. How dare I ask for creativity in an Art class!!!!

 

 

Thanks... it is not my story.. and mel tells it WAY better. In case you don't know him he is a great teacher.

 

So here is an assignment that I use all the time at the college level, Benzine. You can have them "be careful what they wish for" ;) . It is the classic "old school" MASTER COPY.

 

Yup... copy a piece. And when I say copy I mean a 3-D "Xerox". Everything,....... size, form, surface, firing finish, the whole deal. (Of course labeled as a copy exercise on the piece in the end.)

 

This is an advanced level assignment. I pick the selection of possible pieces, and the students select from within that grouping I provide to them. It is not a "pick your own" approach. And there is method to the madness of the items that I select to include. And the selection is always beasd upon the particular class og specific students.

 

They usually underestimate how VERY HARD this is going to be. :lol:  They learn a TON of things, the LEAST of which is how to copy that piece.

 

best,

 

.................john

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To me the most original pottery artist was George Ohr "The Mad Potter of Biloxi". Even though he understood classical forms, he went outside the  structures to define himself in his work. The controlled distortion of his forms created rhythmic patterns that few if any had tried before. 

It also seems that he had a quirk about repeating patterns as in the naming of his children and other things.

Interesting fellow.

Wyndham

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Several years ago The Christian Science Monitor wrote a long, informative series of articles on the basics of quantum physics. It was probably the best hours I have spent reading something that should have been quite daunting but in fact was reduced to more easily grasped ideas. I don't pretend to have any more than a 'toe dip' of understanding of this exciting world, but I love to know it's out there!

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Chris; Take a look at page 16 of the latest Ceramics Monthly ( Jan 2014). picture #2 looks like a crude version of some of the things you are doing.

 

P.S to Norm...

Feynman said that anyone who said they understood quantum mechanics was lying,so I don't feel so bad about not understanding the underlying math.  Anyway, thankfully the process of breaking symmetry might end up pretty bad for the cat, It can be very good in ceramics.

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Don't be annoyed . . . have you considered the possibility that these pots you are seeing are actually pots made in the future -- by potters influenced by your current and yet to be produced work -- and which have been transported back to the current time by quantum leapers travelling through gaps in the time-space continuum? 

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Charles Darwin & Alfred Russel Wallace came up with the idea of natural selection at about the same time. Leibniz and Newton both came up with "calculus" in the same time frame .  Many times good ideas have been hit upon by more than one person working in isolation. If ideas are new to you then they are "new" even if others have tried them. 

 

You are an original Chris no doubt about it.

 

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