David F. Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 It seems like I recall someone using elmer's glue for a resist that is easily applied using slip trailing techniques. I use paraffin for bottoms and lids bit it is dificult to control. I'd like to use a resist on top on a glaze and then apply another glaze. Any idea how it would burn out at cone 6 oxidation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Oz Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Check out this article from ceramic arts daily Beyond Wax Resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David F. Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 thanks ... now I remember that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I have also used rubber cement as a resist for slip trailing techniques. It reacts a little differently, but when you have applied it to an area with a trailing bottle and let it dry the glaze over top works much the same as any other material. The interesting thing about it is the you can lift the rubber cement carefully pulling the whole resist area off of the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Puckett Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Pres, now I am wondering if rubber cement is easier to use than liquid latex. Or if they are basically the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Pres, now I am wondering if rubber cement is easier to use than liquid latex. Or if they are basically the same thing. I wondered that as well. I will say that I've used rubber cement in place of water color maskoid. It works fairly well, but is so thin, that it can be difficult to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayjay Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 For a removable mask I use a product called Copydex, it's a rubbery glue mainly intended for sticking paper or cloth, (it's great for putting patches on the knees of my work trousers and will survive several washing machine cycles). It's quite thick, and as with wax, brushes need washing off straight after use, it can be peeled off of bisque ware fairly easily, not sure if it would peel off glaze without also removing the glaze, also I've never left it on a piece and allowed it to burn off in the kiln, I'm sure it would but I don't know about the fumes or smell. I've never attempted any fine work with it, but a 6mm wide line should be do-able with a small brush, quite possibly smaller with a slip trailer. Checking on Wiki, Copydex is latex dissolved in water and as such is relatively non-toxic and often used in primary schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I haven't tried this of late(rubber cement), but back in the day the rubber cement would go on pretty stringy if dripped or run through a squeegee bottle. I did not use tjanting tools as they would gum up. I used a bottle, or sometimes just dripped on with a brush held over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Rubber cement is great for random flowing "squiggle" lines, for nearly any type of resist. It makes some very interesting areas in watercolor. I'll have to try it again, with glaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantay Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The above mentioned article stated that white glue should be removed before firing. Does anyone know why this is so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The above mentioned article stated that white glue should be removed before firing. Does anyone know why this is so? My guess is that removing the white glue trailing, he allows the clay to get the effects of smoke-firing. He seems to smoke fire at a low temperature, maybe low enough that all of the white glue does not burn off before the paper/combustible ignites and smokes the surface. I've used white glue to attach cookies to the bottoms of pillow vases and fired them to cone 6 with no problems. Gluing the cookie to the bottom makes it easier to put in the kiln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 WOuldn't removing the glue from glazed ware rip the glaze off also or is that what is being pursued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 That was kind of my thought Babs. Latex resist is made to leave the bottom layer undisturbed, but I would think peeling off a white glue, would create issues upon removal, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think we have two different uses of white glue as a resist here. One is using it over glaze to allow another glaze to be poured on top. I don't think anyone would suggest removing (or trying to remove) the white glue when used on top of glaze as a resist. The other use is as a resist on clay; in the case of Russell Fouts, he uses it to make a glaze pattern, then removes it to expose the clay body to the smoking technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 That makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleigh_arts Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'm gonna try it. What's the worse that could happen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleigh_arts Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 *worst Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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