Marge Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 I've seen many one piece chip and dip bowls online that look like you slice the clay after the bowl is formed to then make the dip part. It's been referred to as a swirl chip and dip. Does anyone know how to make this... or has seen a tutorial online?? Thanks!! Margie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Like my avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marge Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 YES!! That's very funny, and beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 One of the more fiddly and labour intensive things I make, took me several practices to get them figured out. This is how I make them, I'm sure there are other ways too. throw a flat bottom bowl, 4 lbs for a shallow “Swirl” and 5+ for a deeper one. (even thickness walls since the cut wall won’t get trimmed at all) when soft leather hard cut a spiral through the wall, starting from about 1/2” from the bottom going up to the rim trim the “tail’ off the cut rim to the depth of the shallow end of what you want the inner “cup” to be form the inner “cup” part into a circle, or oval or whatever, and attach the clay wall to the base add a coil to the inside where the tall part of the wall attaches to the base and blend the coil in when stiff leather hard round over the cut edges and trim base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, Min said: One of the more fiddly and labour intensive things I make, took me several practices to get them figured out. This is how I make them, I'm sure there are other ways too. throw a flat bottom bowl, 4 lbs for a shallow “Swirl” and 5+ for a deeper one. (even thickness walls since the cut wall won’t get trimmed at all) when soft leather hard cut a spiral through the wall, starting from about 1/2” from the bottom going up to the rim trim the “tail’ off the cut rim to the depth of the shallow end of what you want the inner “cup” to be form the inner “cup” part into a circle, or oval or whatever, and attach the clay wall to the base add a coil to the inside where the tall part of the wall attaches to the base and blend the coil in when stiff leather hard round over the cut edges and trim base Any chance we can get some pictures of the process? I'm a visual learner... Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Gee--some of my ill-fated efforts at serious throwing end up sort of looking like a swirly chip & dip, just before they fly off the wheel head onto the pan walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Benzine said: Any chance we can get some pictures of the process? Sure Ben, just give me a few days to finish what I'm working on right now. (although it might be more fun to see Lee's method. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marge Posted August 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Thanks Min! Can you send the pics in this string of posts so I will find it? Also, how would I find Lee's method? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabby Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 13 hours ago, LeeU said: Gee--some of my ill-fated efforts at serious throwing end up sort of looking like a swirly chip & dip, just before they fly off the wheel head onto the pan walls. It is a comfort to know someone else occasionally has something fly off the wheel head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Reich Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Didn't know it's name, @Min, but I have always admired the clean swirl of your avatar. I suspect the best trick is the cutting from bottom to rim so the "tail" doesn't flop around and you can release it with control. Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marge Posted August 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Thanks!! Trying it this afternoon... stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 9:13 AM, Gabby said: It is a comfort to know someone else occasionally has something fly off the wheel head. Some of my classroom bats are wearing out. I've had plenty of students get their water container knocked over, by a runaway bat, with clay attached. It got so common, I started giving a warning about it. I bought new bats this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabby Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Benzine said: Some of my classroom bats are wearing out. I've had plenty of students get their water container knocked over, by a runaway bat, with clay attached. It got so common, I started giving a warning about it. I bought new bats this year... Now that I have never seen- a runaway bat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Gabby said: Now that I have never seen- a runaway bat! It's kind of funny, and if it happened to me, I would definitely think so. It's less funny, with beginning students, who are frustrated by the new process to begin with. They generally still laugh at it, after the fact. I'm more frustrated that the bats did warp and wear as they did, because they were supposedly, not supposed to do so. We'll see how the new ones hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Min I am curious how much you sell those for? That sounds like a ton of labor. It is absolutely beautiful though. I imagine 100+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 12:08 PM, Rae Reich said: Didn't know it's name, @Min, but I have always admired the clean swirl of your avatar. I suspect the best trick is the cutting from bottom to rim so the "tail" doesn't flop around and you can release it with control. Very nice! Thanks Rae! I just call it a Swirl, I think that calling it a chip n'dip dates it and makes it a bit of a one purpose pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/27/2018 at 5:50 PM, Benzine said: Any chance we can get some pictures of the process? Here you go... This one started with 5 lbs of clay, med sized Swirl. Throw a flat bottom bowl, even wall thickness, nothing to trim where the base and wall meet. Let it set up so the rim is soft leatherhard and mark out the spiral with the wheel on. (vertical line is approx where the tail gets cut off) Cut along the lines, bevel cut and score the cut end of the tail. Form the cup, and attach it to the base. Use whatever method of joining works for your clay, slip/score, slip, water, magic water etc. Fill the gap with a coil and blend in. Smooth over the cut edges. At this point the pot is still attached to the batt. When it's firm leatherhard put it on a chuck and trim the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Joseph Fireborn said: Min I am curious how much you sell those for? That sounds like a ton of labor. It is absolutely beautiful though. I imagine 100+? Not quite that much, want to sell them for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 They are stunning. I don't know much about your market, but it's beautiful. I haven't seen that type of thing anywhere in stores, that is why I assumed the high price. Usually, things you can't find deem higher prices. Thanks for the process shots. very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marge Posted August 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Min... Thanks so much for your terrific pictures! They were SO helpful! I've attached my first attempt and can't wait to try it again! Margie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I make chip and dips still in two sizes. Swirl looks great but its to much work for my customers-especially the maker. Good job Min. I'm sure they sell well as they are very non standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergusonjeff Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Thanks for the photos Min. I was not following the text description and assumed it was much more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Thanks for the step by step photos @Min. That illustrates the process much better, for me. You're the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 If anyone else makes one of these I would love to see your version of it. Take the method I showed and turn it into your own style by changing the bowl profile, shape of the cup, placement of the cup, length of the inner swirl part etc. It's always nice when people come back and post their results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Reich Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 19 hours ago, Min said: Thanks Rae! I just call it a Swirl, I think that calling it a chip n'dip dates it and makes it a bit of a one purpose pot. I appreciate your not wanting to sound dated, but customers usually want to have an idea of function (and I admit to seeing your avatar as a purely sculptural piece, having no idea of the scale) The term may be "old", but everyone still eats chips and dips. That said, perhaps a Swirl Snacker?? Swirl Server?? I'd fill mine with caviar, lemon wedges and blini! Dim sum and dipping sauce! Drawn butter and langustino! Even chips and dip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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