DMCosta Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Hi all, I wanted to make some ceramic pendant jewelry with a few of my students this summer. Instead of making the loop attachment on the top of the pendant out of clay, I wanted to do it using a metal or wire. My idea was to create the pendant, insert the metal loop fitting, then bisque and glaze fire it. So here's my question: Does anyone know of any fireproof metal loops or wire that can survive the kiln firings? Thanks, ~Dianna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Sweet Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 You can use nichrome wire available at your local ceramic supplier. You can also go to the home page of the forums and do a search, and you'll discover several discussions on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I have 22 gauge kanthal wire that I got on eBay. It is a spool of wire but will survive the fire. I haven't tested to ^6 yet, but considering kanthal is what elements are made of, I think it is ok. You'd need to test. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Sweet Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I also agree with Marcia's reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think the wire spoken about above will survive fine but the problem will be is it to brittle. You need to see how strong it is after firing it like in a twist test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 firing the metal is a difficult way to approach this. talk to Dirt roads pottery. sharon uses glue on metal findings and can point you in the right direction. poking a fondue stick through from the side allows a chain to run through the pendant top. poking a hole in the pendant from top to bottom allows a metal ring to be attached. there are several potters here who make jewelry, am sure they will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayjay Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 talk to Dirt roads pottery. sharon uses glue on metal findings and can point you in the right direction. Me too. (E6000 glue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 The wire works re: withstanding the fire, but it is not pretty! It is very dull and feels dry/rough. it's OK to make rods for a bead tree or other uses (like a sculptural element, but not for jewelry. It is also difficult to cut and bend for a small, delicate application. I use the e3600 and whatever bails serve the purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 You can also poke a hole in it and use a jump ring and bail, it's what I do. Have some of the glue on bails but have never tried them. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I would use glue to attach the wire after the glaze fire.You could use quality wire and the attachment will be very strong. Dirts roads is the master of this send her a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiselleNo5 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 I use high fire wire. I cut an inch, fold it in half around pliers, then twist it once or twice and leave a V of wire at the bottom. I press it in and then smooth over the little area of damaged clay. Works great. You can purchase very fine as shown or thicker. Blick and Big Ceramic Store both have it, under high temp wire. http://www.bigceramicstore.com/tools-supplies/firing-supplies/high-temp-wire.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtRoads Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I like glue flat bails, glued with e6000. Same wire as Giselleno5 for earrings. We had gotten away from ceramic jewelry, but are now bringing it back. Doing a $5K wholesale right now, all ceramic. One tip I might add is to finish your jewelry off with nice chains or faux pearls (these really sell for me). I only do one spring show and was selling tons of ceramic jewelry while a vendor a few rows over sole almost none. They were using hemp and nylon. On earrings use a nice finding. I prefer antique bronze or stainless steel. For ears in the antique bronze, you must have cadmium, nickel and lead free. The style of earring is extremely important. You have to find out what your target market prefers. I find the kidney hooks or short straight hooks to be the best sellers. I NEVER use those cheap looking fish hooks. Ceramic jewelry is a fantastic profit booster and I don't see many potters doing it right. Details are important. You must have the right findings or jewelry doesn't seem to sell. Getting ready to expand facilities for more jewelry with another 400 square foot expansion. Contact if you need more information or have questions. Sharon Grimes Dirt Roads Pottery 601-298-2000 (haven't been on too much lately ... business is really demanding now) Glue Flat Bails in Antique Silver and Antique Bronze Cross Pendant attached with Antique Bronze Glue Flat Bail Round Pendant (glue flat bail) on Antique Bronze chain and matching earrings (24 gauge high temp wire) on 38 mm Kidney Hook Earring with 24 gauge high temp wire ( just a small horseshoe shaped hook .. I don't twist like Giselleno5 but I think that's a great idea) Pendants on 8mm 32 inch glass bead (faux pearls) in Antique Bronze. I also use 6mm pearls. Available in antique bronze and silver. Earring comparison: Kidney hooks and short straight hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I have a question...if you use the glue on bail how do you glaze both sides of the jewelry since there isn't hole to hang them in the kiln? T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtRoads Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I have a question...if you use the glue on bail how do you glaze both sides of the jewelry since there isn't hole to hang them in the kiln? T Small stilts and lighter coat of glaze. Sometimes they leave small marks which we hit with a dremel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Ahhh ok thanks! I did that for awhile but found people were turned off by the little stilt marks, I was hoping you had found a better way to fire them! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayjay Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I have a question...if you use the glue on bail how do you glaze both sides of the jewelry since there isn't hole to hang them in the kiln? You could also make a hole which will be covered by the bail and support the pendant on a wire through the hole. I fire mine upside down, they are made in two parts, (sprig moulded basically) hollow in the centre and I leave a small hole at the top. I made a stand using a small block of clay with stainless steel pins pushed up through it from underneath, the pendant sits on the protruding pin, (just). It's not ideal, I've lost a few (maybe 10%). If I make any more I'll try the hole under the bail method. I looked at all sorts of things for "chains" and ended up using something called Velvet Ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tia13 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hi everyone, I know this is an old thread but it was the only one that came up in search for loop attachment. Unlike OP, I do want to make the ceramic loop on top of some items. I am new to pottery (intro in Studio forum) and have made some basic slab animal shape pieces (few inches in size). My clay is leather hard right now so my concern is that it is too small to add securely. Tips? I can post pics if that helps. tj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Tia: think pics are needed so members can visualize what you are doing. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 23 hours ago, tia13 said: My clay is leather hard right now so my concern is that it is too small to add securely. Tips? I can post pics if that helps. Adding more clay to leatherhard clay should work, but the addition also needs to be leatherhard. It's the best way to build slab boxes/houses etc and keep the clay flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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