Mark C.

Well Bailey had the stock mixed up and they had in stock 20 of the  14x28 Thermo Lite shelves at $331 each so I ordered them all-Trucking to my remote part of the planet for a 275# box on a pallet was $590. Now my back is feeling better not using old shelve tecnology which is heavy ,and I had them shipped to my friends lumber yard a few miles away for cost reduction in shipping -still $590 via Fedx ground economy .
They will show up second week in November when I return from diving Indonesia .
I'll need to wash them lightly and bisque fire them with a bisque load..work almost never stops
Funny the shelves cost more than the kiln, never used to be that way.

The glaze will not adhere to Baileys or advancer shelves (kiln shelve.com) You just knock off any glaze drips and it does not affect the next pots fired
You should get a total quote from both suppliers which includes trucking /shipping before buying
in terms of washing I am an all porcelain studio and the pots  are fired to soft cone 11  and will pluck on unwashed shelves -meaning the foot will stick in small amounts sometimes. Leaving sharp bottoms .
That means for me I use a Quaility home made wash on the shelves. 50% alumina hydtrate 25% EPK and 25% calcined EPK. I thin this to cream constentancy and roll it on with a paint roller and sun dry it on sun heated shelves .
I ahve about 65 advancers and a few Bailey German shelves-they all act all the same. I have fired them a zillion times. I have broken some as well . You need to keep them dry not stacked on concrete (I use wood under them on concrete) Never blown one up . After washing them I slow bisque them with pots on them in a regular bisque fire.

You will be amazed on the shelves as thay will never warp or hold glaze. You will never have to buy another again.Just do not try to quick cool them as they do not like thermal shock as well.

Well Bailey had the stock mixed up and they had in stock 20 of the  14x28 Thermo Lite shelves at $331 each so I ordered them all-Trucking to my remote part of the planet for a 275# box on a pallet was $590. Now my back is feeling better not using old shelve tecnology which is heavy ,and I had them shipped to my friends lumber yard a few miles away for cost reduction in shipping -still $590 via Fedx ground economy .
They will show up second week in November when I return from diving Indonesia .
I'll need to wash them lightly and bisque fire them with a bisque load..work almost never stops
Funny the shelves cost more than the kiln, never used to be that way.

Before leaving on a dive trip I ordered 18  14x 28 Bailey german made advancer shelves. They were a bit cheaper only $331 each and shipping was in the mid 500$s. Advancers where considerable  higher in price and shipping. They show up 2nd week of November . It will be tough to solar dry the wash that time of year so I may have to heat them in the shop to wash them and get them dry.

As a Laguna distributor and with lots of  full timer Potter friends I hear things.
Right now custard feldspar due to supply issues is now at 200#s per customer (including me) with Laguna clay
I'm in the ordering mode this week  so I found out about the 200# limit per customer on Custar
.There are rumors  Custar may be going aways but they are just rumors at this point.So thats a heads up. If I where able to by a lifetime supply  right now I would .Just saying
The other news is Kemper tools may not be around for long as the owners are selling the property they have been on for many decades in fact at least since 1947
Now someone could set up and buy the equipment and supplies and move the business but I would not hold my breath on this. The tool business has been defuzed in the past 20 years with so many other tool makes as well. So I ordered what kemper tools i like and there are only a few like the pro needle tool thinking its my last kemper order. So if  you use kemper tools just beaware they may go away soon or not if its bought up.
Well sorry to have such bad news but thats what I have heard all in the past few days after being away on a long trip and just returned.
 

As a Laguna distributor and with lots of  full timer Potter friends I hear things.
Right now custard feldspar due to supply issues is now at 200#s per customer (including me) with Laguna clay
I'm in the ordering mode this week  so I found out about the 200# limit per customer on Custar
.There are rumors  Custar may be going aways but they are just rumors at this point.So thats a heads up. If I where able to by a lifetime supply  right now I would .Just saying
The other news is Kemper tools may not be around for long as the owners are selling the property they have been on for many decades in fact at least since 1947
Now someone could set up and buy the equipment and supplies and move the business but I would not hold my breath on this. The tool business has been defuzed in the past 20 years with so many other tool makes as well. So I ordered what kemper tools i like and there are only a few like the pro needle tool thinking its my last kemper order. So if  you use kemper tools just beaware they may go away soon or not if its bought up.
Well sorry to have such bad news but thats what I have heard all in the past few days after being away on a long trip and just returned.
 

As a Laguna distributor and with lots of  full timer Potter friends I hear things.
Right now custard feldspar due to supply issues is now at 200#s per customer (including me) with Laguna clay
I'm in the ordering mode this week  so I found out about the 200# limit per customer on Custar
.There are rumors  Custar may be going aways but they are just rumors at this point.So thats a heads up. If I where able to by a lifetime supply  right now I would .Just saying
The other news is Kemper tools may not be around for long as the owners are selling the property they have been on for many decades in fact at least since 1947
Now someone could set up and buy the equipment and supplies and move the business but I would not hold my breath on this. The tool business has been defuzed in the past 20 years with so many other tool makes as well. So I ordered what kemper tools i like and there are only a few like the pro needle tool thinking its my last kemper order. So if  you use kemper tools just beaware they may go away soon or not if its bought up.
Well sorry to have such bad news but thats what I have heard all in the past few days after being away on a long trip and just returned.
 

I have a thrift store blender in. shop for this-works like charm 

I have a thrift store blender in. shop for this-works like charm 

Before leaving on a dive trip I ordered 18  14x 28 Bailey german made advancer shelves. They were a bit cheaper only $331 each and shipping was in the mid 500$s. Advancers where considerable  higher in price and shipping. They show up 2nd week of November . It will be tough to solar dry the wash that time of year so I may have to heat them in the shop to wash them and get them dry.

This applies your your stack as well. Seeing as you have 15 of them in that load. Those spacer chunks if washed will not stick.As far as bricks for stilts no worries-I would wash the ends. Its not smaller profile its about mullite and  post fuzing to the shelve. Wash will sholve that on all posts/bricks tops and all those small spacers you have in load.
(Yes the tops of pots shold be washed and the spacer chucks as well. If unwashed it will leave pieces fuzed over time to the bottom of the shelves and make for uneven stacking and can crack a corner. Also posts and spacers will stick and be harder to remove especally at cone 10 temps.)
I'll Pm you if we make that trip and still have the shelves. This am I'm ordering 17 14x28 Bailey advancers for delevery in 3 + months from Germany

Not a rub it was darn hard clay work that got me here-

Not a rub it was darn hard clay work that got me here-

have used many types and brands of mixer over my 50 year career. 
these are not jiffley which have no side or bottom protection
https://www.jiffymixer.com/
Make the best as far as I know
I never have them eat the sides or bottoms.I use three sizes two small ones in cordless drill (these smaller ones last about 20 years) and are great for smaller containers
And the larger 5 gallon size with a 1/2 shaft diameter for my 1/2 electic drill-I use this every two weeks. 
I mix so much glaze  that I wear the larger size  out-I use  one and keep in stock as spare . 5 gallon bucket size is perfect for me and the whole thing is  about 2 feet long plus the drill from harbor frieght. I am on about #6 of the large size as I wear the bottom stainless out and it then become sharp and can wear a bucket . A hobbist will never wear one out as they are made to last the large size is just over $50 if i recall. Been  since I bought one as I have a spare . Yes these cost more but last longer work better and sometimes you get what you pay for.
I would measure mine exactly but I'm in Bali diving for 5 weeks -back home on the 8th

have used many types and brands of mixer over my 50 year career. 
these are not jiffley which have no side or bottom protection
https://www.jiffymixer.com/
Make the best as far as I know
I never have them eat the sides or bottoms.I use three sizes two small ones in cordless drill (these smaller ones last about 20 years) and are great for smaller containers
And the larger 5 gallon size with a 1/2 shaft diameter for my 1/2 electic drill-I use this every two weeks. 
I mix so much glaze  that I wear the larger size  out-I use  one and keep in stock as spare . 5 gallon bucket size is perfect for me and the whole thing is  about 2 feet long plus the drill from harbor frieght. I am on about #6 of the large size as I wear the bottom stainless out and it then become sharp and can wear a bucket . A hobbist will never wear one out as they are made to last the large size is just over $50 if i recall. Been  since I bought one as I have a spare . Yes these cost more but last longer work better and sometimes you get what you pay for.
I would measure mine exactly but I'm in Bali diving for 5 weeks -back home on the 8th

have used many types and brands of mixer over my 50 year career. 
these are not jiffley which have no side or bottom protection
https://www.jiffymixer.com/
Make the best as far as I know
I never have them eat the sides or bottoms.I use three sizes two small ones in cordless drill (these smaller ones last about 20 years) and are great for smaller containers
And the larger 5 gallon size with a 1/2 shaft diameter for my 1/2 electic drill-I use this every two weeks. 
I mix so much glaze  that I wear the larger size  out-I use  one and keep in stock as spare . 5 gallon bucket size is perfect for me and the whole thing is  about 2 feet long plus the drill from harbor frieght. I am on about #6 of the large size as I wear the bottom stainless out and it then become sharp and can wear a bucket . A hobbist will never wear one out as they are made to last the large size is just over $50 if i recall. Been  since I bought one as I have a spare . Yes these cost more but last longer work better and sometimes you get what you pay for.
I would measure mine exactly but I'm in Bali diving for 5 weeks -back home on the 8th

I sit to throw in this -I have two of them
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/133208101456186331/
I trim on another wheel and use a rolling office chair with a good back support as well.
I have been thru lots of throwing chairs in my 50 plus years at the wheel. I have had this current set up for over 20 years now.My wheels are up a bit with Brent booties and my trim wheel is a model A which is low so Its on a wooden platfore to raise it up

I sit to throw in this -I have two of them
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/133208101456186331/
I trim on another wheel and use a rolling office chair with a good back support as well.
I have been thru lots of throwing chairs in my 50 plus years at the wheel. I have had this current set up for over 20 years now.My wheels are up a bit with Brent booties and my trim wheel is a model A which is low so Its on a wooden platfore to raise it up

I have made a salt kiln out of an electric. The bricks are all rated for 2400 so its a non issue for cone 10 as  Bill points out above

I have made a salt kiln out of an electric. The bricks are all rated for 2400 so its a non issue for cone 10 as  Bill points out above

really i'm making less but slowing down is a gradual deal

Spent a huge part of summer getting ready and moving and now firing a new to me Geil 18 cubic foot downdraft kiln.
It started years ago when I found this kiln for my self and a potter fiend I know said he wanted it so I let him buy it and ship it up from LA. He fired it twice and passed away. I promised his widow to clean out his studio which I did a few years ago and this summer finally made moved the kiln (it weights about 2,700#s)
It require me knocking out some support collums and putting in two 20 foot LVL beams so I could open up my kiln area out under a huge metal roof area. Once the beams where in We moved the small 12 cubic updraft out of the way and I jackhammered out the column supports I poured in 1974. And made large cement pad -about two yards of concrete -I had a pump truck pump it into our space. I added some small wings to the main pour a few days later exposing in more rebar for the kilns to set back from one another more. I had to deconstruct a wall at kiln site in his kiln room and spent 3 days getting kiln out onto a specialized equipment trainer with a pallet jack .The trailer  jacks down flush with ground level to put kiln on and made a solid wood support structure in girl kiln (floor sides and arch support to move it the 15 miles. Here at home it landed on the street for 5 days and  derusted then painted it where it needed it and had a local yard move it with a forklift to my pad where I again used a pallet jack to fine tune it and the other kiln. Of courseI had to move my gas lines before the concrete went in and got two 1 inch line stubbed up from my 2 inch lines underground that run through my kiln area. I had to change out 15 orfices in the Geil (drilled them out with super fine drill buts) as the kiln was propane and now its low pressure natural gas. I tried to fire all three kilns at one a few weeks ago and did not have enough gas to do that but I did fire the Geil and my car kiln two days ago with no issues. I was abal to put both my peter Puggers on this slab as well and now that can move around with ease. The whole area is way more efficient now and I did I had done this 10 years ago. The Geil sips gas but now i must order 14  new 14x28 advancers as the old shelves it came with are just to thick and heavy and warped for my old body. Those shelves will cost as much as I paid for the kiln and will take 3 months to ship here from Germany (thru bailey). I am unloading my second glaze fire today from the Geil and I have bisqued in it twice as well. The auto pilot system has a few bugs but I'm working thru it.

I bought a 500$ new washer just for clay stuff and its out next to studio and drains to my timber bamboo patch. I use only cold water and never any soap. You will have to clean out rubber trap under washer every now and then as clat settles there.I would never wash clay stuff into a house drain system especaily ours on a septic septic system

I bought a 500$ new washer just for clay stuff and its out next to studio and drains to my timber bamboo patch. I use only cold water and never any soap. You will have to clean out rubber trap under washer every now and then as clat settles there.I would never wash clay stuff into a house drain system especaily ours on a septic septic system