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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Min in Re-creating a happy accident glaze   
    That glaze does not have any Gerstley Borate. There is no way it would look like that unless you under-fired it. The fact that you can put another glaze on top of it and it is still mostly on the test tile means there is definitely no GB, unless that other glaze on top has absolutely no frit in it?
    So if you wanted to replicate that glaze and figure out what it is, I would do this.
    1. Since you said you had a few unlabeled bags, I would mix up that exact glaze but missing the 50% GB.
    2. Figure out how many cups you want to use, so say its 10 attempts to figure this out. Measure out 100ml of glaze with the mystery recipe but don't include the Gerstley Borate. Instead leave that out. But use the same amount of water you would have used if it was in there.
    3. Measure out 10ml with a syringe into each cup, making sure you stir well before each one. I use a milk frother for this...
    4. Take your 10 mystery attempt materials that look similar to Gerstley Borate that you might have used instead. Put 50% weight(the missing GB amount) of the mystery chances into each cup. You will have to do the math on this to figure out what this should be, but it isn't difficult at all.
    5. Glaze a test tile or a little test dish or whatever you want in the 10 mystery glazes and make sure to record everything.
    6. Fire it all on the exact same schedule with the same load mass that you did for the first tile.
    7. Pull out the results and keep any of them that look similar to the original tile, go from there.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Hulk in Re-creating a happy accident glaze   
    That glaze does not have any Gerstley Borate. There is no way it would look like that unless you under-fired it. The fact that you can put another glaze on top of it and it is still mostly on the test tile means there is definitely no GB, unless that other glaze on top has absolutely no frit in it?
    So if you wanted to replicate that glaze and figure out what it is, I would do this.
    1. Since you said you had a few unlabeled bags, I would mix up that exact glaze but missing the 50% GB.
    2. Figure out how many cups you want to use, so say its 10 attempts to figure this out. Measure out 100ml of glaze with the mystery recipe but don't include the Gerstley Borate. Instead leave that out. But use the same amount of water you would have used if it was in there.
    3. Measure out 10ml with a syringe into each cup, making sure you stir well before each one. I use a milk frother for this...
    4. Take your 10 mystery attempt materials that look similar to Gerstley Borate that you might have used instead. Put 50% weight(the missing GB amount) of the mystery chances into each cup. You will have to do the math on this to figure out what this should be, but it isn't difficult at all.
    5. Glaze a test tile or a little test dish or whatever you want in the 10 mystery glazes and make sure to record everything.
    6. Fire it all on the exact same schedule with the same load mass that you did for the first tile.
    7. Pull out the results and keep any of them that look similar to the original tile, go from there.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Pyewackette in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I always find the discussions of success interesting. Success is such a hard word to pin down, what some people consider success to others might be laughable.
    A potter making 50K a year in profits(not revenue) might be wildly successful to themselves, but someone else might consider that awful with the amount of manual labor it took for a person to do that in most cases. Making pots as an individual is really hard work no matter what techniques you use.
    Success is really up to the individual, if you are happy making 10K a year in profits and are securing your lively hood through another manner, congrats you are happy and successful!
    Pottery as a business is probably one of the most challenging forms of art type business you can take on. The equipment is large, the materials are heavy, the ingredients are a hazard and the time and manual labor that goes into each piece is usually under valued.  If you sell in person, you have to haul tons of stuff to a fair or show. If you sell online, you have to package and ship materials that are fragile and cannot be easily replaced. Neither of those things are optimal. It really is one of the most challenging sole owner businesses out there. Which probably explains why there are not a lot of individual million dollar potters, but plenty rich in livelihood, joy and a good bit of money.
    I had a fundamental problem with pottery and turning it into a business, it doesn't scale very well. At some point you are going to cap out on the amount of shows you can do, pots you can make, and boxes you can pack. If you want to push into 6 figures you have to be really smart with what you do and be savvy in time management. It isn't easy to do and as others have shown it definitely is possible to do; but other types of businesses can scale so much easier with a single person and modern machinery.
    I really like making pots and I like selling them too. Knowing someone is drinking out of my cups year after year experiencing joy is a nice feeling. It is one of the best reasons to be a potter. Not many forms of art are used daily in such an important thing as nourishment of our bodies.  I still think being rich in joy is way better than being rich in money. Unfortunately you need both!
    I think I agree with GEP on this subject of instagram. Those people with millions of followers are wildly successful at getting likes and follows, but really they are earning way more money for instagram than themselves. That being said I know that instagram can add to your sales and get visibility to your shop, but I think the potters who utilize it the best are not the ones who have the quarterly flash sales, it is the potters who have a constant online shop available for the impulse buys. When someone is scrolling through their feed and the algorithm places one of your pots on their feed, they click through, click to your website and convert. That conversion can be a newsletter signup, clicking your show dates, or buying a pot from your shop. If you don't have any thing like this available and you are on instagram, then you need to make an adjustment.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from akilpots in Free Video Recommendations for Potters   
    I really enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/c/ShinobuHashimoto/videos
    They are not in English, but some of the techniques he uses are remarkable.
    Some of his more recent stuff has translations.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Callie Beller Diesel in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    Mostly things to change the viscosity for brushing and some flux to make the slip adhere better to the greenware underneath after firing.
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    Joseph Fireborn reacted to Pres in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    I like to also use clay slip over pieces. I have found that when I assemble the chalices, that a coat of contrasting slip over top is a great way to accent further decoration after the slip dries enough. Then I use a potato peeler to facet the stems, and trimming tools to add incised bands into the stem and cup. These show up under glaze as lighter darker areas that add and extra layer of decoration. I like to have a lot of depth to my glazes where layers of transparency will reveal other things underneath.
    The slips I use are SC 630 and SC 211Hazelnut.
     
    best,
    Pres
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Pres in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    That is pretty close in rates I doubt it will matter. As with everything though, best to test before you commit to a ton of production work.
    I make a slip out of a clay body that I dry and then grind down into a powder form so I can mix it with other additives. All of my work uses this slip over another clay body.
    I love slipping pots this way, it adds a lot to the final form if done right. I am not sure exactly what you are after, but the best thing to do is try applying you slip to different stages of the green ware in the drying process. Find which one you get the best results with for what you are after, and then repeat that process a few times before committing it it.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Kakes in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    Mostly things to change the viscosity for brushing and some flux to make the slip adhere better to the greenware underneath after firing.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Kakes in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    That is pretty close in rates I doubt it will matter. As with everything though, best to test before you commit to a ton of production work.
    I make a slip out of a clay body that I dry and then grind down into a powder form so I can mix it with other additives. All of my work uses this slip over another clay body.
    I love slipping pots this way, it adds a lot to the final form if done right. I am not sure exactly what you are after, but the best thing to do is try applying you slip to different stages of the green ware in the drying process. Find which one you get the best results with for what you are after, and then repeat that process a few times before committing it it.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Rae Reich in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    That is pretty close in rates I doubt it will matter. As with everything though, best to test before you commit to a ton of production work.
    I make a slip out of a clay body that I dry and then grind down into a powder form so I can mix it with other additives. All of my work uses this slip over another clay body.
    I love slipping pots this way, it adds a lot to the final form if done right. I am not sure exactly what you are after, but the best thing to do is try applying you slip to different stages of the green ware in the drying process. Find which one you get the best results with for what you are after, and then repeat that process a few times before committing it it.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Magnolia Mud Research in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    That is pretty close in rates I doubt it will matter. As with everything though, best to test before you commit to a ton of production work.
    I make a slip out of a clay body that I dry and then grind down into a powder form so I can mix it with other additives. All of my work uses this slip over another clay body.
    I love slipping pots this way, it adds a lot to the final form if done right. I am not sure exactly what you are after, but the best thing to do is try applying you slip to different stages of the green ware in the drying process. Find which one you get the best results with for what you are after, and then repeat that process a few times before committing it it.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Hulk in Clay slips over clay bodies with different shrinkage rates?   
    That is pretty close in rates I doubt it will matter. As with everything though, best to test before you commit to a ton of production work.
    I make a slip out of a clay body that I dry and then grind down into a powder form so I can mix it with other additives. All of my work uses this slip over another clay body.
    I love slipping pots this way, it adds a lot to the final form if done right. I am not sure exactly what you are after, but the best thing to do is try applying you slip to different stages of the green ware in the drying process. Find which one you get the best results with for what you are after, and then repeat that process a few times before committing it it.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from LeeU in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I totally agree here, but not everyone is capable of doing this physically day in and out. I wasn't and it is one of the main reasons I decided to stop. I kept trying but my body wouldn't let me due to health issues from the past. Your statement alone that it takes decades to develop your body into the machine required basically sums it up. At some point you have to make pots to sell pots, and if you cannot make pots you cannot make money. That is a drastically limiting business model for someone who might face health adversity; this is basically all I was stating, the OP was asking what things limit turning a hobby into a business. Physical requirements are one of them. On top of this, you cannot turn it over to someone else if you go through a health crisis. If you make the pots, decorate the pots, fire the pots, etc. No one person can replace you. It is a delicate business plan that requires you front and center every single day.
    I don't understand why anyone would make that comment, but I often find myself not understanding people. If I somehow made that comment in my post, I apologize I had no intentions of that meaning. If anything I admire people who can succeed as a full-time potter with no other support, it is impressive.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from CeramicHugs in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I always find the discussions of success interesting. Success is such a hard word to pin down, what some people consider success to others might be laughable.
    A potter making 50K a year in profits(not revenue) might be wildly successful to themselves, but someone else might consider that awful with the amount of manual labor it took for a person to do that in most cases. Making pots as an individual is really hard work no matter what techniques you use.
    Success is really up to the individual, if you are happy making 10K a year in profits and are securing your lively hood through another manner, congrats you are happy and successful!
    Pottery as a business is probably one of the most challenging forms of art type business you can take on. The equipment is large, the materials are heavy, the ingredients are a hazard and the time and manual labor that goes into each piece is usually under valued.  If you sell in person, you have to haul tons of stuff to a fair or show. If you sell online, you have to package and ship materials that are fragile and cannot be easily replaced. Neither of those things are optimal. It really is one of the most challenging sole owner businesses out there. Which probably explains why there are not a lot of individual million dollar potters, but plenty rich in livelihood, joy and a good bit of money.
    I had a fundamental problem with pottery and turning it into a business, it doesn't scale very well. At some point you are going to cap out on the amount of shows you can do, pots you can make, and boxes you can pack. If you want to push into 6 figures you have to be really smart with what you do and be savvy in time management. It isn't easy to do and as others have shown it definitely is possible to do; but other types of businesses can scale so much easier with a single person and modern machinery.
    I really like making pots and I like selling them too. Knowing someone is drinking out of my cups year after year experiencing joy is a nice feeling. It is one of the best reasons to be a potter. Not many forms of art are used daily in such an important thing as nourishment of our bodies.  I still think being rich in joy is way better than being rich in money. Unfortunately you need both!
    I think I agree with GEP on this subject of instagram. Those people with millions of followers are wildly successful at getting likes and follows, but really they are earning way more money for instagram than themselves. That being said I know that instagram can add to your sales and get visibility to your shop, but I think the potters who utilize it the best are not the ones who have the quarterly flash sales, it is the potters who have a constant online shop available for the impulse buys. When someone is scrolling through their feed and the algorithm places one of your pots on their feed, they click through, click to your website and convert. That conversion can be a newsletter signup, clicking your show dates, or buying a pot from your shop. If you don't have any thing like this available and you are on instagram, then you need to make an adjustment.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from DirtRoads in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I totally agree here, but not everyone is capable of doing this physically day in and out. I wasn't and it is one of the main reasons I decided to stop. I kept trying but my body wouldn't let me due to health issues from the past. Your statement alone that it takes decades to develop your body into the machine required basically sums it up. At some point you have to make pots to sell pots, and if you cannot make pots you cannot make money. That is a drastically limiting business model for someone who might face health adversity; this is basically all I was stating, the OP was asking what things limit turning a hobby into a business. Physical requirements are one of them. On top of this, you cannot turn it over to someone else if you go through a health crisis. If you make the pots, decorate the pots, fire the pots, etc. No one person can replace you. It is a delicate business plan that requires you front and center every single day.
    I don't understand why anyone would make that comment, but I often find myself not understanding people. If I somehow made that comment in my post, I apologize I had no intentions of that meaning. If anything I admire people who can succeed as a full-time potter with no other support, it is impressive.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from GEP in Turning your hobby into a business   
    Thank you for following up!
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    Joseph Fireborn reacted to GEP in Turning your hobby into a business   
    Joseph, I apologize for being unclear! I did not mean that you made this comment. You did not. I was referring to this entire discussion, and to many other discussions I’ve seen, here and in other places, where the differentiations are not discussed. 
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    Joseph Fireborn reacted to GEP in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I agree with most of what you’ve written here, but these points need to be challenged a little. Being able to produce the volume that it takes to earn a living with pottery is not really about time management, or an awful amount of labor. It’s about training your body to be able to produce high volumes, using a reasonable amount of time and labor. The “modern machinery” required for a pottery studio is your own body, honed for efficiency. There’s only one way to develop this …. by doing it for a few decades. 
    I do strongly agree that everyone should define “success” for themselves. But I also believe that the different definitions should be talked out openly, and weighed with relativity. Some are turning a profit, in an amount that equals a nice side business, while working another day job. Some are doing it full-time and doing well, but would not get by without another form of financial support (spouse or parents). Some are paying for their entire lives (housing, vehicles, food, utilities, health insurance, retirement plan) by making and selling pots, without any other support. All of these are valid businesses, but they aren’t equal. As a person in the last category, it really annoys me when anyone suggests I should act more like a person in the first category. That’s not the boat I’m paddling these days. I’m not putting down those in the first category, because I was that person when I started out! I’m arguing that anyone who wants to discuss the Business of Pottery should recognize and understand the differences when they are discussing it. 
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Stephen in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I always find the discussions of success interesting. Success is such a hard word to pin down, what some people consider success to others might be laughable.
    A potter making 50K a year in profits(not revenue) might be wildly successful to themselves, but someone else might consider that awful with the amount of manual labor it took for a person to do that in most cases. Making pots as an individual is really hard work no matter what techniques you use.
    Success is really up to the individual, if you are happy making 10K a year in profits and are securing your lively hood through another manner, congrats you are happy and successful!
    Pottery as a business is probably one of the most challenging forms of art type business you can take on. The equipment is large, the materials are heavy, the ingredients are a hazard and the time and manual labor that goes into each piece is usually under valued.  If you sell in person, you have to haul tons of stuff to a fair or show. If you sell online, you have to package and ship materials that are fragile and cannot be easily replaced. Neither of those things are optimal. It really is one of the most challenging sole owner businesses out there. Which probably explains why there are not a lot of individual million dollar potters, but plenty rich in livelihood, joy and a good bit of money.
    I had a fundamental problem with pottery and turning it into a business, it doesn't scale very well. At some point you are going to cap out on the amount of shows you can do, pots you can make, and boxes you can pack. If you want to push into 6 figures you have to be really smart with what you do and be savvy in time management. It isn't easy to do and as others have shown it definitely is possible to do; but other types of businesses can scale so much easier with a single person and modern machinery.
    I really like making pots and I like selling them too. Knowing someone is drinking out of my cups year after year experiencing joy is a nice feeling. It is one of the best reasons to be a potter. Not many forms of art are used daily in such an important thing as nourishment of our bodies.  I still think being rich in joy is way better than being rich in money. Unfortunately you need both!
    I think I agree with GEP on this subject of instagram. Those people with millions of followers are wildly successful at getting likes and follows, but really they are earning way more money for instagram than themselves. That being said I know that instagram can add to your sales and get visibility to your shop, but I think the potters who utilize it the best are not the ones who have the quarterly flash sales, it is the potters who have a constant online shop available for the impulse buys. When someone is scrolling through their feed and the algorithm places one of your pots on their feed, they click through, click to your website and convert. That conversion can be a newsletter signup, clicking your show dates, or buying a pot from your shop. If you don't have any thing like this available and you are on instagram, then you need to make an adjustment.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Callie Beller Diesel in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I always find the discussions of success interesting. Success is such a hard word to pin down, what some people consider success to others might be laughable.
    A potter making 50K a year in profits(not revenue) might be wildly successful to themselves, but someone else might consider that awful with the amount of manual labor it took for a person to do that in most cases. Making pots as an individual is really hard work no matter what techniques you use.
    Success is really up to the individual, if you are happy making 10K a year in profits and are securing your lively hood through another manner, congrats you are happy and successful!
    Pottery as a business is probably one of the most challenging forms of art type business you can take on. The equipment is large, the materials are heavy, the ingredients are a hazard and the time and manual labor that goes into each piece is usually under valued.  If you sell in person, you have to haul tons of stuff to a fair or show. If you sell online, you have to package and ship materials that are fragile and cannot be easily replaced. Neither of those things are optimal. It really is one of the most challenging sole owner businesses out there. Which probably explains why there are not a lot of individual million dollar potters, but plenty rich in livelihood, joy and a good bit of money.
    I had a fundamental problem with pottery and turning it into a business, it doesn't scale very well. At some point you are going to cap out on the amount of shows you can do, pots you can make, and boxes you can pack. If you want to push into 6 figures you have to be really smart with what you do and be savvy in time management. It isn't easy to do and as others have shown it definitely is possible to do; but other types of businesses can scale so much easier with a single person and modern machinery.
    I really like making pots and I like selling them too. Knowing someone is drinking out of my cups year after year experiencing joy is a nice feeling. It is one of the best reasons to be a potter. Not many forms of art are used daily in such an important thing as nourishment of our bodies.  I still think being rich in joy is way better than being rich in money. Unfortunately you need both!
    I think I agree with GEP on this subject of instagram. Those people with millions of followers are wildly successful at getting likes and follows, but really they are earning way more money for instagram than themselves. That being said I know that instagram can add to your sales and get visibility to your shop, but I think the potters who utilize it the best are not the ones who have the quarterly flash sales, it is the potters who have a constant online shop available for the impulse buys. When someone is scrolling through their feed and the algorithm places one of your pots on their feed, they click through, click to your website and convert. That conversion can be a newsletter signup, clicking your show dates, or buying a pot from your shop. If you don't have any thing like this available and you are on instagram, then you need to make an adjustment.
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Roberta12 in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I always find the discussions of success interesting. Success is such a hard word to pin down, what some people consider success to others might be laughable.
    A potter making 50K a year in profits(not revenue) might be wildly successful to themselves, but someone else might consider that awful with the amount of manual labor it took for a person to do that in most cases. Making pots as an individual is really hard work no matter what techniques you use.
    Success is really up to the individual, if you are happy making 10K a year in profits and are securing your lively hood through another manner, congrats you are happy and successful!
    Pottery as a business is probably one of the most challenging forms of art type business you can take on. The equipment is large, the materials are heavy, the ingredients are a hazard and the time and manual labor that goes into each piece is usually under valued.  If you sell in person, you have to haul tons of stuff to a fair or show. If you sell online, you have to package and ship materials that are fragile and cannot be easily replaced. Neither of those things are optimal. It really is one of the most challenging sole owner businesses out there. Which probably explains why there are not a lot of individual million dollar potters, but plenty rich in livelihood, joy and a good bit of money.
    I had a fundamental problem with pottery and turning it into a business, it doesn't scale very well. At some point you are going to cap out on the amount of shows you can do, pots you can make, and boxes you can pack. If you want to push into 6 figures you have to be really smart with what you do and be savvy in time management. It isn't easy to do and as others have shown it definitely is possible to do; but other types of businesses can scale so much easier with a single person and modern machinery.
    I really like making pots and I like selling them too. Knowing someone is drinking out of my cups year after year experiencing joy is a nice feeling. It is one of the best reasons to be a potter. Not many forms of art are used daily in such an important thing as nourishment of our bodies.  I still think being rich in joy is way better than being rich in money. Unfortunately you need both!
    I think I agree with GEP on this subject of instagram. Those people with millions of followers are wildly successful at getting likes and follows, but really they are earning way more money for instagram than themselves. That being said I know that instagram can add to your sales and get visibility to your shop, but I think the potters who utilize it the best are not the ones who have the quarterly flash sales, it is the potters who have a constant online shop available for the impulse buys. When someone is scrolling through their feed and the algorithm places one of your pots on their feed, they click through, click to your website and convert. That conversion can be a newsletter signup, clicking your show dates, or buying a pot from your shop. If you don't have any thing like this available and you are on instagram, then you need to make an adjustment.
  22. Like
    Joseph Fireborn reacted to GEP in Turning your hobby into a business   
    I’m not disputing that his happens. But how many pots were in that online sale? Sometimes I look at those sold out stores and see that they sold 50 or 70 pots. Maybe 100. That’s really not that many pots. And how many times per year do these potters open their shops? 3 or 4 times per year? It’s important to look at these businesses as an overall annual format, and whether it can be sustained as a means to earn a living over time, not just one sale that sells out in a flash.
  23. Like
    Joseph Fireborn reacted to Callie Beller Diesel in QotW: What have you learned from/by customers/students when dealing with them?   
    The thing I’ve learned most from my customers (that I didn’t learn in other customer service jobs) is that you should never underestimate how you can affect people with your work.
    I love doing the romantic gifts for folks. Birthday or anniversary gifts, moving in with his first boyfriend gift, stuff like that. The sweet, building your life kind of things. But I never dreamed pots could help others with things like grief.
    Warning: You will want tissues for this one. Also, cancer content. 
    Background: I make mugs with swear words on them. The “f bomb” is the most popular. I know, not everyone loves them, and if you don’t, that’s perfectly okay. But the people that do love them REALLY love them. I started making them as a bit of a money maker, frankly.  I thought they were gimmicky, but whatever. I still made them nicely. Most people find them funny or cheeky, have a bit of a laugh, buy one for themselves or a friend and get on with their day. But one Saturday a couple of years ago, I was surfing social media and I came across this post that had tagged me, and it brought me to tears. 
    Someone had bought one of my “f___” mugs at a consignment store. She was speaking about being a palliative care nurse, and dealing with her dad’s late stage cancer diagnosis that he had received the month before.
    I can’t write it better than she did, and this is posted with permission.
    "As a nurse I can manage the crap out of this...mostly. As a daughter my vision and skills are clouded. As a daughter there are not strong enough words to say how hard this is. And I see palliation and family care in a whole new light. But I really wish I didn't have to see it in this light. So, I will cope with cuss words and inappropriate humour. I will cope with coffee and Jesus. I will cope with love and support from friends. I will cope with hugs and shoulders to lean on when I have to go to work. I will cope with alcohol when needed. And I will continue to find support in unexpected places... like a mug that sums all of this up in one word."
     
     
    So that was a big one for me. I viewed these mugs as the least of what I made. Like a lot of us I’m sure, I question the value of what I do sometimes. When I do, I try and remember that post, and remind myself it’s important to keep showing up to make the things. 
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Rae Reich in QotW: What have you learned from/by customers/students when dealing with them?   
    For sure, I left my job a few months ago. Stuck it out for 2 years until I was outgrowing my wifes income which she was the main provider. It was hard putting in 60 hours a week for 2 years, but done. So hoping now to regain my pottery hobby.
     
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    Joseph Fireborn got a reaction from Callie Beller Diesel in QotW: What have you learned from/by customers/students when dealing with them?   
    For sure, I left my job a few months ago. Stuck it out for 2 years until I was outgrowing my wifes income which she was the main provider. It was hard putting in 60 hours a week for 2 years, but done. So hoping now to regain my pottery hobby.
     
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