Karen B Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 My 50lbs bag of Zinc Oxide which is about 3/4s full has become hardened. I tried using some in a small glaze mixture by putting it in the blender but it did not work. Is there any way to salvage it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 put some in a bowl and dry it out in the kiln. fire it up to about 6-700 degrees. It should breakdown easily after that.If not, take it to 1000 F. You could put some in a bisques bowl and fire it in a bisque and see what happens. That would be a truer calcination.test a small quantity first. I have done this for recipes that call for calcined chemicals. I use them as additions for things like slip going on dry pots. They shrink less. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I think 1200 f is about as high as you should go. Zinc starts to vaporize at cone 06. Wiki says: ZnO decomposes into zinc vapor and oxygen at around 1975 °C with a standard oxygen pressure. Heating with carbon converts the oxide into zinc vapor at a much lower temperature (around 950°C).[11] ZnO + C → Zn(vap) + CO Wyndham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perkolator Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 mortar and pestle? i would also try calcining it like suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen B Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Thank you so much! I am happy if I don't have to add the labor of mortar and pestle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Thanks Wyndham. I wasn't sure of the higher temp. for vaporizing zinc. Drying it out in a kiln should dehydrate it. So try it at 6-700 F first and see if it breaks up.Or try 1000 F. I do this with Calcium and Kaolin to make them calcined when the recipe calls for it or if I am experimenting with underglazes on dry greenware. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 i have been known to put it in a strong back and drive over it a few times in my small truck then sieve it/ mortar it as required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 If possible try to buy calcined zinc, it plays nicer with glazes than reg zinc. I think the 1000-1200 deg temp range drives off chemical water from the zinc, much like drying out a greenware pot where there's physical water and above 1000 deg f driving off chemical water but before sintering and fusing begins. Wyndham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Ok As an isolated potter, self taught, reading many boks and articles, and watching carefully what happens!, what is the process of replacing Zinc Oxide with calcined ZincOxide in a glaze formula? I'm not confident in replacing chemicals in my glazes as I have not had this education. I fire to C03 and also to C5/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Zinc Ox always attracks water and clumps if left exposed in a paper sack or even a plastic bag over time. You can store it in mosture proof container I keep mine up high in warm shop to keep it drier I always mix the zinc portion of my glaze recipe in my blender with a little water and add it to the mix-warm water will help some. Mark For Babs (what is the process of replacing Zinc Oxide with calcined ZincOxide in a glaze formula?) Say you need 50 grams of zinc oxide in recipe and you use calcined zinc Oxide instead-you would still add 50 grams. Its just the same about the without the water and its already shrunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 so there is no great weight loss associated with the removal of water? Does that apply to all calcined chemicals? I use calcined manganese dioxide sometimes and have some non calcined, ok to substitute?? Humidity would affect the water or is it a chemically bound water we are talking about here? Try it I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Try it. It should dissolve better. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Thanks every one. Did mean manganese carbonate not dioxide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen B Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 As a follow-up to the problem with my hardened zinc: I put about 6 very lumpy cups of the zinc oxide in a heavy previously fired pot . I heated it to 700 degrees and held for 20 mins. After cooling enough to open, I found that the lumps broke up, but was not fine enough to mix in a glaze. It would never pass through the 800 mesh sieve. I tried sifting out the finest particles, but realized that I would never get the 2000 or so grams I would need. I commandeered an old coffee grinder from the kitchen and found that it did the job. It quickly made the zinc into a fine powder. I have glazed and fired with that zinc and glazes all look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Why are using a 800 mesh screen?not much of anything will pass through that I hope you meant an 80 mesh Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen B Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Yes, Mark, I did mistype "80" mesh. Thanks Norm for the source of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 norm, i know you want to be exact so maybe you want to re-read your "3 square meters per gram" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win G. Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 I'm sure you've solved your problem by now. I had the same problem and am 40 miles from a supplier. I needed it pronto to finish a glaze batch. I calcined it to 1000 deg., some of it powdered, but not enough. Finally I added CLR - the strongest acid I had around. It bubbled and stayed lumpy, but by the next morning it had dried and was powdery. It worked, but now i wonder how the ingredients in CLR will effect the glaze. Time for another test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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