Natas Setiabudhi Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Hi everyone glad to see you again I wanna ask about running glaze. I love ceramic Arhoj from Denmark (I attach his ceramic). Does anyone know how to make such his running glazes? Maybe generally for making that glazes. Best Natas Setiabudhi www.natassetiabudhi.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 It is a wonderful glaze result ... and, so uncommon no one seems to know much about it! If you find out elsewhere, let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natas Setiabudhi Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Hi Thank you for replying. Actually, I already have the recipes, but not that style. The glazes I attached is very thick, matt, and looks partial. My own is very fluid and gloss. My assumptions are the glazes must be low in china clay and high active flux like feldspar, whiting, iron oxide and zinc oxide. I wish the others can add the solutions. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I think it is probably done at the glazing stage than the firing stage. I would try dipping a pot in a glaze that stays fluid/wet for a while and flip it the right way up quickly to get some drips running. Then maybe a little extra added to the drops. It doesn't look too matt in the picture but it is very small. Any glaze that is running that far from a straight line would in my opinion run all the way to the bottom and it's a stiff glaze made to look runny/drippy/fluid. After going to their website and looking at a few I have changed my mind, they certainly look runny and they call them runny glazes but still not that matt. I remember somebody trying this by just adding a really thick glaze at the top that fell off the pot onto the shelf. If you want runny glazes the number one way is to lower the alumina, alumina acts like a spider grabbing onto the silica chains as they flow past slowing the speed. Source - https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cUwwoR-RuJ0C&pg=PA309&lpg=PA309&dq=alumina+spider+glaze&source=bl&ots=GPqulHG-Hd&sig=tG_fcIeFNx2DqPWF8pu3616OOyw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLj46Nq_3LAhWGXCwKHWoNC40Q6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q&f=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curt Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I saw a pot like this recently at NCECA. Different colour but same kind of run pattern and big drops. It was a very stiff glaze, and I happen to know it was cooked for a very LONG time (15 to 20 hour soak). looks like some high surface tension going on in this glaze, particularly those big, bulgey, spherical-looking drips. In other contexts we would call this crawling but here it is pleasing and somewhat more controlled, which makes me think it is produced by longer than usual firing, rather than a glaze which is going to crawl in an uncontrolled manner. I agree with High Bridge that high aluminium is a likely suspect here, and high Magnesium may also be contributing. For a good read see Hamer and Hamer on Surface Tension (Joel do you have this book yet??) Not saying there are not other ways to get it, though. But you may try upping alumina or magnesium or lengthening soak time or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Those drips would be enhances by careful glaze application as well as the glaze composition?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I was actually saying to lower alumina to make it runny but if you are going the 15 hour hold route then need some high alumina I was thinking maybe it is a long soak to get the drips but never put those thoughts down. Always more than one way to the end. The reason I thought it was unrunny glaze made to look runny was because of the big drips and how much they are raised up from the pot. Still not bought the book but I might have a good look for it today as I finally have a little spare moolar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 i do not know ANYTHING about glaze chemistry but i got big drips like that when i used a Fake ash glaze for the first (and only) time. nothing special was done to the pot, a vase about 8-9 inches tall sprayed white glaze and the top part dipped in the fake ash. sold so no picture unless it is among the hundreds somewhere in the pictures program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curt Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Hmmm, yes I have used ash glaze plenty but to my mind that is different to what is going on in Nata's pot. Ash glazes (or fake ash - same mechanism) makes long, straight-ish runs which seem to keep going and going until they run off the pot or simply run out of juice and stop. In either case the drop at the end is not nearly as big and spherical as what we are seeing above. Cant rule out that how the glaze was applied could have had something to do with it, but that would be very difficult to control I think! Maybe someone who has specifically gone after crawly glazes can weigh in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natas Setiabudhi Posted April 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I just found another one (the picture I attached). Maybe the simple one for making running glaze adding iron oxide more than 10%. But according to my experience, the running is very difficult to control because the melted glaze will risk drop to shelve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I think there is probably a lot of experimentation that is kiln specific as well as glaze specific to control things like this. Curt I just found a second hand first edition potter's dictionary for £6 with delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 One thing catches my eye about the sample pic: there is a very distinct line between the Lt. rose and the Lt. Blue glazes. So that makes me wonder if the the Lt blue is slightly over fluxed to make it run. Then it runs onto the Lt. Rose which has added alumina. In reality, the glaze run is not extensive compared to others I have seen. The glaze run actually is balling up: which makes me think there is a rapid change in viscosity. I do believe calcium would have that quick reaction. Joel, as you said: someone has played with/ran tests on for awhile. The Lt blue is semi gloss, and the Lt. rose is very matte: which added alumina would explain some of that. Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 I thought it was one glaze and the clay body, no rose glaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Joel: Was only going by the pic: have not been to the website. If that holds true: then he had to color the body, and up his alumina (body) to accomplish the same thing. Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 Think I threw a glaze out did this in the distant past :-))))))))))))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 My first thought, and then I waited to see what the rest of you said, was that it was a slip/clay drip/blob, covered with a stiff glaze. I couldn't do anything that accurate, but I don't see why it couldn't be done that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Think some of John Britt's oil spot yunomi show a couple of drips similar to these globular ones. Perhaps it is a double dip of specific glaze types.. . Wonder how many test pots this person made?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I found a very similar looking glaze from Harlan House, his Jun Celadon. He uses a tube of cobalt blue watercolour paint to supply a very fine cobalt grind. (he posts the recipe) http://www.harlanhouse.com/blue-celadon-glaze/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 What a great article min, nice find thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natas Setiabudhi Posted April 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Thank you, Chris Campbell, High Bridge Pottery, Curt, Oldlady, Glazenerd, Babs, Chilly, Min, Joseph F for the sharing and precious advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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