docweathers Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 I would like to be able to write on the bottom of my bisqueware pots in iron oxide. it would be much easier if I could find some refillable marking pen that would work well with iron oxide solutions. Has anyone found such a thing? I know that I could take a little cup of iron oxide and a paintbrush and do some doodling but I'm looking for something quicker and easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy pots Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Hi, There are Minnisota clay pens that are refillable. Joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEP Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 You could also try a ruling pen (an old graphic designer's tool, do a google search, they cost about $10). I sometimes use one to write words on bisque ware. It's kind of like a fountain pen, and takes a little practice. Compared to using a brush, the lines will be crisper and more consistent. Mea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 You can load an ink pad with red iron wash and use a rubber stamp-that works well. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Mark and Mea The ruling pen sounds like a good idea if you just want to write something on the pot. The iron oxides soaked ink pad would be good one wants to sign a work. I'm going to implement both ideas. Thanks for the suggestions Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denice Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 doc Let us know how they work. Denice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Hi, There are Minnisota clay pens that are refillable. Joy I looked at these. I was not clear that I could use my own colorant (Iron Oxide) or whether it required a special cartridge of ink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 http://www.blueheronarts.com/product_info.php?cPath=13&products_id=461 these might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 That looks like a very interesting brush. Have you used these? Thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi, There are Minnisota clay pens that are refillable. Joy I looked at these. I was not clear that I could use my own colorant (Iron Oxide) or whether it required a special cartridge of ink I have a set ofgraphic-type ink drawing pens, that have a removable reservoir, that can be refilled. I've obviously only used liquid ink in it, but something like that may work, with the larger tip sizes. The smaller ones, probably not, since those clog easy, even with the standard ink. Here they are: http://www.engineersupply.com/Koh-I-Noor-Rapidograph-Technical-7-Pen-Artist-Set-3165SP7A.aspx?gdftrk=gdfV22645_a_7c983_a_7c4620_a_7cES2378&gclid=CKuhyriSpbgCFao-MgodxCgAkQ NOTE: GOOD LORD, I received these as a gift many years ago, but I didn't realize they cost that much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzchemist Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 These might work, if you're comfortable hand-refilling cartridges with a syringe: http://www.jetpens.com/Pilot-Parallel-Calligraphy-Pen-2.4-mm-Nib-Width/pd/894 I'm not sure how well these will write on clay. Or you can use these, that are more widely available (and easier to rinse out): http://www.jetpens.com/Pentel-Aquash-Waterbrush-Pen-Large/pd/1772 http://www.jetpens.com/Kuretake-Waterbrush-Pen-Medium-Compact-Size/pd/2678 http://www.jetpens.com/Sakura-Koi-Waterbrush-Pen-Large-8-Nib/pd/3129 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awaterbrush+pen&keywords=waterbrush+pen&ie=UTF8&qid=1373467398 The particle size of the iron oxide in ceramic iron oxide washes is so large that it will clog the tips of most refillable markers. The effort involved in finding and testing micro-particle size iron oxide is probably not worth it. (I used to work for the company that makes Sharpie markers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 So far I've tried the ruling pen idea and it works really great. I got the fancy with overdrive, deluxe model for total of $8.99 off of eBay. Ruling Pen Durer #4075 w/ Swiveling Blade for EZ Clean Nib: 1.7/8" Length:5" Item# 171065450942. I don't know this guy or have any relationship with him. He just sells good pens cheap. I am experimenting with adding some CMC to my iron oxide solution. It seems to make the solution a little more viscous and keep the iron in solution a little better. But, it works just great with straight iron oxide solution. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEP Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Glad to know it works for you! When I said it takes a little practice to use one, what I mostly meant was figuring out the right viscosity for your "ink" in relation to the width that you have set the pen's point. Here are some pots I just finished for a wedding gift. The lettering was done with a ruling pen, plus watered down black underglaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 when you see the advantage of using a black under glaze would be as compared to using something like iron oxide solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEP Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 no real advantage really, other than wanting my lettering to be black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 beautiful pots, mea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 hey doc, what is your avatar saying? i can't read what the sign says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 it says "aroma therapy candles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Docs Avatar says (Aroma Therapy Candles) Click on it and it will be a tad bigger Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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