MFP Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Is anyone aware of a truly WHITE cone 6 stoneware? Not buff, not tan, but White?!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Porcelain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnolia Mud Research Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Laguna B-Mix 5 and the Aardvark b-mix equivalent. of course the answer to your question depends totally on the definition of "truly white". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 White stoneware can look very white, until you put it next to something that is truly white. It's always going to be slightly yellow/tan or grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhPotter Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Laguna 609 #65. I can't tell the difference between the 609 clay and Laguna 617 #16 porcelain after glaze firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFP Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Ironically.....deciding on which porcelain was the easy part. Oregon White from Clay Art Center took glazes best....over Frost from Laguna. I am still trying to find a stoneware. B mix took the glazes well but I worry about its strength. There is a Bennett that is stronger but very tan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFP Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Thank you! I will look at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preeta Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Curious why you need such a bright white stoneware? I have never come across any claybody in cone 6 that comes out bright white and not grey/pink/tan. What do you mean you worry about Bmix strength? When you say strength i think of restaurant crockery where even the glaze has to be strong and scratch proof. I know a couple of potters who are making bmix table wares for restaurants but they are most concerned with the right glaze recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFP Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Actually, after a discussion with Min.....I am less concerned about this. It was more force of habit I suppose since stoneware was the norm when I was last working and workable porcelain was fairly non-existent. I have actually found the new porcelains to be easier to work with than these new stonewares. I don't care for Bmix.....although it takes glazes well, I find it has all the disadvantages of porcelain and none of the advantages. Min noted more problem with S cracks with these stonewares and that has also been my experience. I found a stoneware body from Clay Art Center.....a cone 6 and 10 versions that are for larger pieces and ovenware. So, if I need a stoneware, that is what I will use. After this first test fire, I see clearly that porcelain is not "delicate". The New Zealand porcelain from Clay Art Center is whiter than Frost and you could bludgeon someone to death with it.....it would take a lot to break it. So I think I have finally figured out what I am going to use for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, MFP said: Actually, after a discussion with Min.....I am less concerned about this. It was more force of habit I suppose since stoneware was the norm when I was last working and workable porcelain was fairly non-existent. I have actually found the new porcelains to be easier to work with than these new stonewares. I don't care for Bmix.....although it takes glazes well, I find it has all the disadvantages of porcelain and none of the advantages. Min noted more problem with S cracks with these stonewares and that has also been my experience. I found a stoneware body from Clay Art Center.....a cone 6 and 10 versions that are for larger pieces and ovenware. So, if I need a stoneware, that is what I will use. After this first test fire, I see clearly that porcelain is not "delicate". The New Zealand porcelain from Clay Art Center is whiter than Frost and you could bludgeon someone to death with it.....it would take a lot to break it. So I think I have finally figured out what I am going to use for what. psst, that was Neil not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFP Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 The senior moments just keep coming more and more frequently! I think we talked about S cracks or was that Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 "B mix took the glazes well but I worry about its strength." fwiw, am finding Aardvark bmix is tougher than other mid fire stoneware that I'm repurposing - crazed pieces as planters - via carbide chip drill bit chucked up in tabletop drill press to add a drain hole; the bmix takes longer. From there, being curious, I transitioned a few to the dustbin via hammer; that bmix is strong as well as tough. Should anyone wish to try drilling, keep it wet/steaming, and watch out for sharp bits (eye protection, gloves, alla that)! The drill press makes it easy. As for dazzlingly white, would a slip, engobe or glaze be an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFP Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Yikes! But to be totally honest, there are just bodies I like more. Everyone is different which is great....imagine the problems if we all liked exactly the same things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay lover Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 I get along very well with Tucker's MCS, very white good for throwing and handbuilding. nice bright glazes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFP Posted August 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thank you! Who sells that please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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