Biglou13 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 ok get you minds out of the gutter here is the deal it was from original post by jbcox that has been since censored. 3 # of clay pull a cylinder in 3 pulls cylinder must be 12 inches tall must be made exclusively on wheel clay cannot be dried eg blow torch or heat gun picture of cylinder with ruler get you in club you will be an official fire breather. there will be a kid club level if you can do it in more than 3 pulls. ive heard of this before its something of an urban myth lets see who can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 3 pounds of clay 12 inch cylinder or whatever. jbcox originally posted.... regarding above...... to which i replied sarcastically, but not disrespectful way it was a play on words collage, college, decoupage, montage, photo montage, digital montage……… it was a friendly ribbing. yes i was yanking his chain on spelling but it was a cool and artistic mis-spelling. i thought was a artistic (Freudian) slip, in a very good way. I did however reply to information in post. Celia from some where in the uk did like it. posted something regarding her disdain. for me ribbing (pottery humor) jbcox. I was penning a witty a response. celia please ffeell freee two spell check mi pots anytmie. a little ribbing is sign of bonding, and acceptance in many modern cultures blowing hot air is just that, hot air as artists and/or craftspersons we have to have thick skin, and be bold in our statements to be good at what we do. other wise wear biege become a cog in the boring uninspired, and live in non relevant world. Only to find big brother has censored and deleted whole post. i wonder what else happened after i read it at lunch at my last read koahku tried and failed. i too tried today and failed miserably. i think i got 8.5 its sounds like a good exercise or is it an urban myth. my tips pull as dry as possible slip covered hands vs water since i have big hands i will attempt to use a stick i used grogged clay, may grog it up a bit more. use gradual pulls, to thin too early is deadly if any one else has tips please post ill try again on monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 The missing piece of information here that makes this "test" at all applicable for comparisons is to set the DIAMETER (either interior or exterior) of the cylinder out of 3 lbs of clay. The smaller the diameter... the thicker the walls can be to get the 12" height. best, .....................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgpots Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 The missing piece of information here that makes this "test" at all applicable for comparisons is to set the DIAMETER (either interior or exterior) of the cylinder out of 3 lbs of clay. The smaller the diameter... the thicker the walls can be to get the 12" height. best, .....................john Excellent point, since an increase in diameter causes a corresponding squaring of the volume of clay needed. Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I used to not allow students to keep pieces until they could throw 9" with 3 lb. So 12' with 3 lb sounds doable. I don't know if I could do it in 3 pulls but will have to try it to see. To me it is obvious to start with stiff clay, well aged. Others may take a different approach, but I would center, open, take first pull. walk away, then come back and pull next two with dry hands and pointer and thumb only-the way I pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I used to not allow students to keep pieces until they could throw 9" with 3 lb. So 12' with 3 lb sounds doable. I don't know if I could do it in 3 pulls but will have to try it to see. To me it is obvious to start with stiff clay, well aged. Others may take a different approach, but I would center, open, take first pull. walk away, then come back and pull next two with dry hands and pointer and thumb only-the way I pull. We had to throw a ten inch cylinder, in collge, before we could move on. I don't recall how much clay we were allowed to use. I got it done, but it was not pretty. I do not require anything like that, of my students. I just don't have the time, with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I set that requirement up as it forced them to work towards quality, not quantity. At the same time for the first MP they got an A if they worked diligently on the wheel every day except when preparing clay. They did not have to make a piece, just attempt to throw the cylinder. 90% of the students were able to completed the cylinder and throw pieces the second MP. The benchmark for the 1stMP was a 9 inch in 2 tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I set that requirement up as it forced them to work towards quality, not quantity. At the same time for the first MP they got an A if they worked diligently on the wheel every day except when preparing clay. They did not have to make a piece, just attempt to throw the cylinder. 90% of the students were able to completed the cylinder and throw pieces the second MP. The benchmark for the 1stMP was a 9 inch in 2 tries. We've talked aboutt his in the past, but didn't you have two Ceramics classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Ok original post was withdrawn not censored. Ok new rules.... 3 pounds 12 inch high Any circumference, more than three pulls must be noted, all on wheel gets you in the club Ok you old pros...... Talk is cheap...... Show me the money!!!! ( picture with ruler) Your students work is also welcome.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Does said cylinder need a bottom? That would be some extra clay, to use in the height..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 12 inches any way wheel built 3 pounds. Extra points for hands only. Extra points for 3 pulls. This is a democratic society, any one suggest ....rules. But keeping it simple works We could always complicate it later Post some pics Failures included...... Ps I'm trying a throwing stick tommorow. I wear size 8.5 gloves !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 How many bonus points for using our feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yedrow Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Just a tad under 12 on one try, three pulls, with a bottom. Joel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Nice! That looks wider than my failed attempt, and I wasn't near that height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Very nice!! Joel I'm not even close yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I suggest anyone, who accomplishes this feat, takes the cylinder, attaches a handle and uses it to drink in their awesomeness with their beverage of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 I limit myself to 12oz of ultra light at a sitting. This would be about 24oz! When I get back into the shop I am going to vid this and post it on utube-if I am any where near successful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadar Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 i guess collaring would count as a pull, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm going to say collaring is not pulling. I still haven't done it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgpots Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Last session in the studio, I pulled 18 inches in one pull. Of course it was with an extruder. Not so lucky on the wheel yet. Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I used the ten " from 2 lbs of clay as an exercise for learning cylinders. Then cut them in half and check the all thickness and evenness.I had my student do a couple of these before starting whatever they were doing at the wheel. Good exercise. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Reed Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 On first thought I figured it would be easy. 3 lbs, 3 pulls, 12 inches. However in practice it was harder that I thought. I even made a video as evidence that I could do it..ha ha. I tried 4 times, with porcelain first and then stoneware, and all 4 times were a failure. I got closer with porcelain, where I was at over 11", but not quite there. I tried the narrow base method, and the wide base method, but could not quite get there. It was fun trying and with a few more attempts I am sure I could do it. thanks for the side track and the challenge! I now have footage for my blooper reel for my you tube channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Missed by 7/8... oh well, maybe I get lucky next time. Do I understand correctly: - no sponge, - You can not take your hands off in the middle of the pull and continue from there as a same pull. - result must be "usable" as a huge beer mug or something - no tools (like ribs etc) At least this is how I attempted to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mregecko Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Missed by 7/8... oh well, maybe I get lucky next time. Do I understand correctly: - no sponge, - You can not take your hands off in the middle of the pull and continue from there as a same pull. - result must be "usable" as a huge beer mug or something - no tools (like ribs etc) At least this is how I attempted to do I don't see any restrictions on sponges or tools. The challenge was just to not let it dry out / firm up (either by waiting or by torching) as far as I know. People have been using throwing sticks, for example. Seems legit to me! :-) [And still really hard!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 use a few drops of vinegar in your throwing water. It helps with height. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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