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writing on bisque w/ Iron Ox

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#1 docweathers

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:46 AM

 I would like to be able to write on the bottom of my bisqueware pots in iron oxide. it would be much easier if I could find some refillable marking pen that would work well with iron oxide solutions. Has anyone found such a thing? I know that I could take a little cup of iron oxide and a paintbrush and do some doodling but I'm looking for something quicker and easier.


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#2 Joy pots

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:16 AM

Hi, There are Minnisota clay pens that are refillable.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:34 AM

You could also try a ruling pen (an old graphic designer's tool, do a google search, they cost about $10).

I sometimes use one to write words on bisque ware. It's kind of like a fountain pen, and takes a little practice. Compared to using a brush, the lines will be crisper and more consistent.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:26 PM

You can load an ink pad with red iron wash and use a rubber stamp-that works well.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:07 PM

Mark and Mea

 

The ruling pen sounds like a good idea if you just want to write something on the pot.

The iron oxides soaked ink pad would be good one wants to sign a work.

 

I'm going to implement both ideas.

 

Thanks for the suggestions

 

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:07 AM

doc Let us know how they work.  Denice



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:26 PM

Hi, There are Minnisota clay pens that are refillable.
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I looked at these. I was not clear that I could use my own colorant (Iron Oxide) or whether it required a special cartridge of ink


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:17 PM

http://www.blueheron...products_id=461

 

these might work



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Posted 09 July 2013 - 08:54 PM

That looks like a very interesting brush. Have you used these?

 

Thanks for the link


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 09:32 AM

 

Hi, There are Minnisota clay pens that are refillable.
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I looked at these. I was not clear that I could use my own colorant (Iron Oxide) or whether it required a special cartridge of ink

 

I have a set ofgraphic-type ink drawing pens, that have a removable reservoir, that can be refilled.  I've obviously only used liquid ink in it, but something like that may work, with the larger tip sizes.  The smaller ones, probably not, since those clog easy, even with the standard ink.

 

Here they are:

 

http://www.engineers...CFao-MgodxCgAkQ

 

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:36 AM

These might work, if you're comfortable hand-refilling cartridges with a syringe:

http://www.jetpens.c...ib-Width/pd/894

I'm not sure how well these will write on clay.

 

Or you can use these, that are more widely available (and easier to rinse out):

 

http://www.jetpens.c...n-Large/pd/1772

 

http://www.jetpens.c...ct-Size/pd/2678

 

http://www.jetpens.c...e-8-Nib/pd/3129

 

http://www.amazon.co...&qid=1373467398

 

The particle size of the iron oxide in ceramic iron oxide washes is so large that it will clog the tips of most refillable markers. The effort involved in finding and testing micro-particle size iron oxide is probably not worth it.

(I used to work for the company that makes Sharpie markers)



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:44 PM

So far I've tried the ruling pen idea and it works really great. I got the fancy with overdrive, deluxe model :)for  total of $8.99 off of eBay. Ruling Pen Durer #4075 w/ Swiveling Blade for EZ Clean Nib: 1.7/8" Length:5" Item# 171065450942. I don't know this guy or have any relationship with him. He just sells good pens cheap.

 

I am experimenting with adding some CMC to my iron oxide solution. It seems to make the solution a little more viscous and keep the iron in solution a little better. But, it works just great with straight iron oxide solution.

 

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:58 PM

Glad to know it works for you! When I said it takes a little practice to use one, what I mostly meant was figuring out the right viscosity for your "ink" in relation to the width that you have set the pen's point.

 

Here are some pots I just finished for a wedding gift. The lettering was done with a ruling pen, plus watered down black underglaze. 

 

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:08 PM

when you see the advantage of using a black under glaze would be as compared to using something like iron oxide solution?


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:18 PM

no real advantage really, other than wanting my lettering to be black.
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:38 PM

beautiful pots, mea!


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 04:39 PM

hey doc, what is your avatar saying?  i can't read what the sign says.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 05:21 PM

it says  "aroma therapy candles" :wacko:


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 06:31 PM

Docs Avatar says (Aroma Therapy Candles)

Click on it and it will be a tad bigger

 

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