Marge Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 I’m looking for a cone 6 grey glaze recipe (glossy). I seem to be finding a lot of matt recipes. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Simplest way to get a gray gloss would be to take a clear gloss that fits your clay then add stain. If you want an opaque gray gloss then add stain plus zircopax (or tin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Grey is difficult without a stain for food safe, but you may find combinations of cobalt and iron, or Manganese (toxic). Most often you will end up with a cool(blue) grey color. Depending on what your needs are, the stain as Min says is the best answer. best, Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Go with stain. I have made many greys looking for the perfect color(which I never was satisfied with), but what Min said is the truth(as always), the best results were from stains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 What do you recommend for a commercial clear gloss glaze in the cone 5-10 range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Rex Johnson said: What do you recommend for a commercial clear gloss glaze in the cone 5-10 range? Do you want cone 5-6 or cone 9-10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marge Posted September 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 In order to make a grey... I was going to add 6-10% of either 6500 or 6523 Mason stain to a cone 6 White Liner glaze recipe. It already has 9g zircopax. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've read that those Mason stains may produce a grey? And not sure about those percentages... I know that I was looking for a gloss and that this White Liner is opaque. I've never used a clear cone 6 glaze, is there one that you like? Thanks a bunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 @Marge, does the White Liner glaze fit your clay? No crazing with the 9 zircopax? If it does and you want a clear gloss to add the stain to you can omit the zircopax. Zircopax does contain silica so if the glaze that is free of it does craze then you will need to add an equivalent amount of silica to what you have removed by omitting the zircopax. (other reasons why zircopax reduces crazing but I won't get into that here) Glazes are like clothing for the pots, what fits my pots won't necessarily fit your pots. Finding a good clear that works with your clay is really helpful in creating other glazes. re stains, 6-10% is an awful lot of stain for a glaze, don't think you will need that much. I don't know how dark a gray you are looking for but the pot below has 2% Mason 6506 Pearl in a clear glaze on white clay. To see how much you need I would suggest mixing up 100 grams of a base glaze and add 2 grams of stain. Dip a test tile with 1 and 2 dips. Add another 2 grams of stain and repeat. Keep going up to a total of 10 grams of stain. You will get a graduated colour test of 2,4,6,8 and 10% of stain. It won't be super accurate since each time you dip a tile you are removing some of the 100 grams of base glaze but it will get you in the ballpark. There are many other shades of gray that have been discontinued from Mason but lots of suppliers still have back inventory of quite a few of them. Mason also published the recipes for mixing those discontinued stains. One other thing about using stains, the base glaze has an effect on how the colour turns out. There is a reference page that lists what the base should or shouldn't contain etc here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Johnson Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 16 hours ago, neilestrick said: Do you want cone 5-6 or cone 9-10? 5-6 would be best as that will be what I'm firing at this go-round. I am using cone 10 clay though. (B-Mix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 You will have fit issues if you use a cone 6 glaze on a cone 10 clay body, and you will have further issues because the clay won't be mature at cone 6. It will make your pots less durable, and you will likely find that they weep. Bmix does have a cone 6 version. Switch to that if you don't have access to cone 10 firing. It'll prevent a LOT of headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Johnson Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Callie Beller Diesel said: You will have fit issues if you use a cone 6 glaze on a cone 10 clay body, and you will have further issues because the clay won't be mature at cone 6. It will make your pots less durable, and you will likely find that they weep. Bmix does have a cone 6 version. Switch to that if you don't have access to cone 10 firing. It'll prevent a LOT of headaches. Appreciate that input, so I won't proceed because I don't want to hijack this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 that is a beautiful bowl, min! i keep forgetting i want to use thick slip and just keep doing the same old thing. thanks for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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