algebraist Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 If I sketch a design on bisque, then paint wax resist over it, then glaze, can I be sure that the pencil marks will burn away completely in a cone 6 glaze firing? (I realize the best answer is "try it and see," but I'd rather not delay the piece I have in mind by a firing cycle, if possible.) Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yes they burn away clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algebraist Posted March 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Excellent, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabama Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Hey, Unless your Doctor has told you not to bother winding your watch, or not to buy green bananas, you'll live long enough to try it and see. I was told in April of 1990 that a pencil lead was graphite and clay, and it would burn off.. I fired between 1100 and 1300 degrees and it didn't burn off. I used a number two pencil. Since the vessel was black, only I could see/notice it. Try it and keep on experimenting, and take notes! You'll appreciate the notes later. Good luck. See ya, Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 1300 is pretty low. By bisque temps it will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I use a pencil all the time and it always burns off but 1300 degrees is well below what I bisque to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I use graphite pencils to draw on my raku slabs but I do fire them to 1900 and the pencil marks are gone. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiselleNo5 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Sometimes the pencil marks stay depending on the glaze, even at Cone 5. Now when I use pencil I only use it with a dark glaze that'll cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 You also need to be careful with the hardness of pencil you use. Sometimes the ghost line that stays after firing is the slight indentation of the surface texture. I only use between 4-6B pencils when I sketch on pieces. One thing I have used successfully as well is a red colored pencil. Make sure there is no wax in the blend, a red pastel pencil is great. Red tends to burn out a lower temps than other colors so there very little chance of a line remaining after biscue firing to ^04. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'd say it burns out most of the time, but I have one cone ten glaze that carbon traps, and I found out the hard way because my glaze notes that I wrote on the side of the pot are still visible. On my last round of glazing, I used powdered graphite thinned with water to mark out some dividing lines. It all burned out at bisque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'd say it burns out most of the time, but I have one cone ten glaze that carbon traps, and I found out the hard way because my glaze notes that I wrote on the side of the pot are still visible. On my last round of glazing, I used powdered graphite thinned with water to mark out some dividing lines. It all burned out at bisque. red food colouring and a fine paint brush works too. totally burns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdobay Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I am little confused " sketch a design on bisque, then paint wax resist over it" if you do this then the glaze will not sick to the peace where the wax is. So the you the design that you sketched to be un-glazed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewV Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 That is an option, yes. Just yesterday I used brush wax mixed with cobalt oxide so anywhere I waxed left an unglazed blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algebraist Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Thanks everyone. Mdobay: yes, that's the idea -- the wax resist gives me a design formed of unglazed clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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