HenryBurlingame Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) Does anyone have experience with the new red Skutt wheels? I am in the market for a new wheel and was thinking about getting one of the new Skutt classics. It is between that and a Brent CXC… The Skutt being only 1/3 hp gives me a little pause, but supposedly the torque is really good… Edited May 5 by HenryBurlingame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) Wheel vendor hp ratings may not be equal. The Skutt hp ratings are "continuous duty"... The "pounds of centered clay" ratings also may not be equal. Last sentence on Skutt's "Motor" webpage*: "Most people will be fine with a 1/3 HP motor, but, if you are throwing big stuff you might want to step up to the 1/2 HP or 1HP motor." I'd agree with that, err, with edit to "...lots of big stuff for a long time, you might want to step up..." My 1/2 hp model, maybe it's "broken in" by now, after six years? Both are good wheels! *The Motor - Kilns | Ceramic Pottery Kiln, Glass Kiln, Pottery Wheels | Skutt Added: Looks like Skutt has changed their product line; I'm not seeing which models have the 1/2 or 1 HP motor. My Stephen Hill (~2016) is fitted with a 1/2 hp motor; its twist is something to respect, for sure... Edited May 5 by Hulk horse powers, spelling HenryBurlingame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryBurlingame Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hulk said: Last sentence on Skutt's "Motor" webpage*: "Most people will be fine with a 1/3 HP motor, but, if you are throwing big stuff you might want to step up to the 1/2 HP or 1HP motor." I'd agree with that, err, with edit to "...lots of big stuff for a long time, you might want to step up..." My 1/2 hp model, maybe it's "broken in" by now, after six years? Ah, I didn’t know there were options for motor size with the new skutts. I can’t seem to find an option to customize on the websites I have been looking at, but I’ll look into it! Edited May 5 by HenryBurlingame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 HP rating are not all the same -that said 1/2hp is usually enough for all size pots one could ever what to make. The 1/3 hp is a bit weak for larger work Pres, Rae Reich and HenryBurlingame 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryBurlingame Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) Oops, double post. Edited May 5 by HenryBurlingame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryBurlingame Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 34 minutes ago, Mark C. said: HP rating are not all the same -that said 1/2hp is usually enough for all size pots one could ever what to make. The 1/3 hp is a bit weak for larger work Do you know if the larger motors are more noisy than the smaller ones? I was thinking of just getting the skutt classic with the 1/2hp or 1hp motor just in case since I don't see any drawback aside from possibly greater noise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) Good question. The larger motors may be louder - or they may be quieter under the same load? Someone with direct experience may yet weigh in... From what I've read, Skutt wheels are noisier than similarly rated competitor's wheels; I don't know that to be a fact... I like my Skutt, a lot! It was much louder in clockwise than counter clockwise, at first; it's quieted down with use. Previous experience limited to Brent A,B,C and CXC models at the Junior College ceramic lab. I liked them all just fine, but didn't give the A model much of a test... The noise level varied quite a bit; all had been used a lot, for a long time. Added: Skutt support has a good reputation; you might ring them during business hours and ask them! Edited May 5 by Hulk Skutt support HenryBurlingame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryBurlingame Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) One other thing that I am wondering about skutt vs brent: skutt says on their website they don't use IR comp (i.e. it doesn't attempt to keep the wheel speed consistent when you apply resistance). Brent wheels do do this. Anyone have a preference one way or the other (or even notice this)? Edited May 5 by HenryBurlingame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) I only use Brent wheels -I have a model A (1/3hp) for trimming and Model B (1/3 hp) and a model C 1/2hp to thrpw and a CXC for throwing .They use IR and I like it. I cannot imangine not having it. I have demonstrated on a whisper shimpo and it was super quiet but I could stall it with medium size clay and a load on it. I would never as a pro have one. Its a great beginner or lite use demo wheel. I'm a brent fan and yes they make noise but its never been an issue as I like music and hear it fine and can talk just fine while throwing. I have zero red skutt experience. Edited May 6 by Mark C. Rae Reich, HenryBurlingame and Pres 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 Like @Mark C., I have used a number of wheels over the years. I have found even in these later years that I can torque some wheels when centering for throwing off the hump. I also have not noticed much in the way of noise difference between 1/3, 1/2 or full. Years ago I used a Brent CX that was a gear drive, it was noisy! I throw on a CXC, and am using the original belts and have only had to replace a potentiometer when the shop got flooded. Over 20 years old now, but then I don't throw on it every day. best, Pres HenryBurlingame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 @HenryBurlingame I own 8 of the 1/3 hp models and 1 of the 1/2hp models. I cannot tell the difference unless I have something really, really, really big on the wheel. I've centered 25 pounds on the 1/3hp models just fine. They can handle anything a Brent CXC can handle because they have a ton of torque despite the lower hp rating. As for the controllers, there are 5 or 6 different adjustments that can be made in the Skutt controller, such as IR Comp, top speed, low speed and a couple others, so you can dial in the pedal exactly how you want it. If you like IR Comp then you can turn it up. It's there, they just turn it off at the factory. Brent only has top and bottom speed. The Skutt pedal also has a much longer travel, which gives you better control. Skutt parts will be cheaper, although you shouldn't need any parts for either brand for a long, long time. I don't know what changes they made with the new Red line, but they still offer the SSX drive, so it doesn't sound like they changed much. HenryBurlingame, Russ and Rae Reich 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryBurlingame Posted May 5 Author Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) Well you all are making me lean towards the brent cxc (although neil still has me thinking about skutt ;-) ). Especially considering new skutt wheels are out of stock and have an unknown ETA due to manufacturing issues apparently. I will talk to skutt next week, but one vendor said they would be able to do a 1/2hp or 1hp wheel by april 2025. No thanks lol. Edited May 5 by HenryBurlingame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 (edited) I prefer some IR Comp - where it's helping but some throttle is required to hold rpm - so I tweaked it up a smidgle. That said, I felt comfortable with feathering the pedal without it; I just like it. The persons I bought my wheel from had bought it from Clay King ...I see they have green Classic and green Professional available today. If I were shopping new, I'd be looking for what beats that 1/3 hp Classic. I like, uhm, really like the cast splash pan. I like the ssx drive, but the standard is fine for me. If upgrading, I'd choose it over the horsepower bump though. Edited May 5 by Hulk un Rae Reich and HenryBurlingame 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryBurlingame Posted May 8 Author Report Share Posted May 8 Ended up ordering a black Brent CXC, thanks for the help everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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