Judy SA Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I teach a ceramic class at The Salvation Army. I am using Standard low fire slip which I fire to cone 05. The bisque looks white. My problem is when I use a clear glaze and fire it to 05 or 06 it comes out looking yellowish or creamy. I am aware of the formula change. I have tried thinning it with distilled water, and putting on a thinner coat of glaze, and used a different brand of glaze. Nothing I have tried made a difference. My supplier has told me that they have not had anyone else with this problem. Most of the time there is no problem as my class usually use colored glazes. But, there are times when they want an item to be white and since we are a non profit I really don't want to use more expesive white glaze. Is there anyone that can help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Sounds like you are using commercial glazes? If so there really isn’t anything except trial and error to find one that is satisfactory to you. Yellow tinge is probably from trace amounts of iron in the glaze. Might be less expensive to buy a white glaze rather than trial and error testing of different clear glazes if white is what you are looking for. BTW, you can turn a clear glaze white by adding an opacifier, zircopax would be the least expensive one. Would need a glaze sieve, accurate scale and a small amount of testing to do this. Rae Reich and Magnolia Mud Research 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy SA Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 Thanks. It sounds like something I am just going to have to live with. My seniors don' t know the difference and usually put a luster over the clear glaze. They are happy. It is mostly me that knows the difference. I'll just have to remember to use white glaze. Thank you so much. Blessings, Judy. Rae Reich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 I use a white porcelain slip on red earthenware. Comes out white. Could it be the white slip turns Cream at glaze temp? A small unglazed test pot would sort that line of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy SA Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 If I change temperature do I go higher or lower. Do I change the greenware or the glaze firing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 12 hours ago, Babs said: Could it be the white slip turns Cream at glaze temp? A small unglazed test pot would sort that line of thought 11 hours ago, Judy SA said: If I change temperature do I go higher or lower. Do I change the greenware or the glaze firing? To expand on Babs' suggestion: Before changing the firing temperature (or time), make a small test pot and bisque fire it, then fire it in your next glaze load - without applying any glaze - using the same schedule you've been using, and see if the color of the clay changes. When you do this, it might be helpful to snap a pre-fire picture of the pot after it's in the kiln for the glaze firing, and another before you remove anything from the shelf around it - just in-case it's affected by 'sputtering' or off-gassing from glazes on surrounding pots. Magnolia Mud Research, Rae Reich and Babs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy SA Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) Thanks. I try that. Edited March 4 by Judy SA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 15 hours ago, Babs said: Could it be the white slip turns Cream at glaze temp? Bisque is done to cone 05, glaze is done to cone 06 or 05. Could just look at an unglazed part of the pot to see the difference in the casting slip colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy SA Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 Could the problem come from firing greenware and glaze together? Since I don't usually have enough for two separate firings I do one firing with both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Anything is possible, it might be from firing bisque with glaze but my hunch it's less probable than being a slightly yellowish glaze colour from trace iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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