Bkam17 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Fuddling cups. These cups are a puzzle and are interlinked in a special way. They need to be drunk in a certain order or they will spill. While I find many pictures of these cups, there are no schematics into exactly how they are linked. Puzzle jugs have schematics, but I have not found more information on how fuddling cups are joined. I also would like to see one of these in action! there I would love to replicate these. if anyone has any info that would be great! http://recedingrules.blogspot.com/2010/02/puzzle-jugs-fuddling-cups.html?m=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe_L Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Sputty said: The drinking skill is in avoiding a soaking through over-enthusiasm. Ahem. Yes well I'm sure many of us are familar with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 so now we know the origin of "befuddled"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkam17 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Sputty said: Hi Bkam - fuddling cups are in fact much less complicated than puzzle jugs. The cups simply connect one to another via holes in the body, and sometimes through hollow linked tubes/handles (although much more rarely). Like you, I have occasionally read that they need to be drunk in a certain order to avoid spillage; I actually think this is mistaken - all the examples I have seen (and the couple of museum pieces that I have handled) have had no provision for this. They literally just join one to the other, neighbour to neighbour. That's all. The drinking skill is in avoiding a soaking through over-enthusiasm. The second picture here - Fuddling Cup, c. 1690 - shows detail. As with puzzle jugs, modern potters certainly make these. Hannah McAndrew in the UK, for example. Thank you for this! This is exactly what I'm looking for. Now it's time to tinker in the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkam17 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, oldlady said: so now we know the origin of "befuddled"! lol yes. The irony of being befuddled by fuddling cups is pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Actually, from what I understand about fuddling mugs, you almost always have to drink from one particular mug otherwise spilling. It is all derived from either a serial or parallel connection of the pieces in the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkam17 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Pres said: Actually, from what I understand about fuddling mugs, you almost always have to drink from one particular mug otherwise spilling. It is all derived from either a serial or parallel connection of the pieces in the set. If you have any pictures or drawings of ones that are set like this, maybe 3 or more connections I would love to see! This was my understanding too, but from Sputty's comment and pictures they look to all be interlinked. I did also read somewhere there are fuddling cups up to about 12 cups. In this case I would imagine that some are connected and others are not, which would be more of a puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pres Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'm not trying to be argumentative, Sputty, it is just that I have used one from the last century(so consider it modern) by a potter that had 3 cups, all three were joined. However there were only holes leading into one. In other words, the left cup had a hole into the lower cup, and the right cup had a hole into the lower cup. However, there were no holes between the right cup and the left cup. Another way of confusing the issue when we were discussing this he told me was to change the size of the hole when working so that the liquid out of one cup would not drain as quickly as the other. Lastly, I have read that in a Fuddling Mug that had more than 3 chambers that they could be designed with two sides to drink from, or that the the furthest chamber would have only one hole draining it into a chamber next. The larger the Fuddling Mug became the harder it was to drink out of it without . . . dribbling. best, Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkam17 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 @Pres @Sputty Here is my first attempt at these fuddling cups. I used the method to put the two cups draining into one. Hopefully this holds together when firing! I left them a bit rough to have the aged look like the screenshots in the OP. I'll report back how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenmeh Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 Did they work? anyone know where I could buy these? I would love to get a set of these for my future Son in Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkam17 Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 @Ravenmeh Hi! They didnt work as well as I expected, I would like to try this again by making smaller cups with smaller holes. For now they are just an accent piece on my shelf. I still have yet to see a more detailed schematic on how these are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaTP Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 i just found a fuddling cup at a sale that I would love to have more information on if anyone has any knowledge (the maker, value ..etc) thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 This is a good demo of how they are made and how they work. Even though it starts out looking at a fuddling jug , this one is a puzzle jug. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 Loosely related modern idea. When ordering drinks at the bar, guests could ask for theirs to served in one of the sculpture's individual compartments. When all three cups were filled, (ideally with drinks ordered by three strangers) the newly-formed trio could cluster together, introduce themselves and forge new connections. Drinking from one compartment without spilling from the others is a challenge that requires communication, coordination and teamwork, akin to a corporate team building activity, albeit a boozy one. http://www.jonsasaki.com/index.php/work/cluster/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 From p88 of A Guide to the Classification of Medieval Ceramic Formshttps://medievalceramics.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/a_guide_to_the_classification_of_medieval_ceramic_forms.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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