Lee S Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 My first time on forum...I just bought a fx23 p cress kiln...only $80 but it makes a pretty loud almost buzz sound when turned on. Anyone know what that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee S Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 I used to be into ceramics about 45 years ago and am hoping to get back into it. I need everything, electric wheel, knives, tools, wire, clay, glaze ... any help out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Kilns buzz. It's not at all unusual. My big kiln has 50 amp relays, and they sound like a jet taking off when it's first turned on. However, just to be safe, though, unplug it and double check that all the wiring connections are clean and tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee S Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 thx Neil, I did that and everything seems ok. How long should it take for the elements to glow red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Depends on the kiln, but usually within 5-7 minutes from cold on high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokume Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 6/21/2018 at 6:31 AM, Richsound said: Apparently the "P" model means that there is no vent near the bottom. I noticed that. Might be purchasing one of these used and was wondering about the vent situation/requirements. Plan to have it in a garage which has a whirly bird directly above the location but could have installed a vent if it had required. I know nothing about it other than it worked when last fired years ago and looks in good shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Mokume said: I noticed that. Might be purchasing one of these used and was wondering about the vent situation/requirements. Plan to have it in a garage which has a whirly bird directly above the location but could have installed a vent if it had required. I know nothing about it other than it worked when last fired years ago and looks in good shape You can attach any brand of downdraft vent to any kiln. Skutt vents just push up against the bottom of the kiln, the L&L can be screwed to the side of any kiln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokume Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, neilestrick said: You can attach any brand of downdraft vent to any kiln. Skutt vents just push up against the bottom of the kiln, the L&L can be screwed to the side of any kiln. This is an older kiln so there is no spot for a vent, you would prop the lid open during early stages of firing. It would have to be an overhead vent. I find it strange they didn’t have venting 20 years ago. Not sure if this is an issue, will be in the garage but don’t want “toxins” getting in to my laundry. Previous owner didn’t appear to have any vent installed in the room it is in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Mokume said: This is an older kiln so there is no spot for a vent, you would prop the lid open during early stages of firing. It would have to be an overhead vent. I find it strange they didn’t have venting 20 years ago. Not sure if this is an issue, will be in the garage but don’t want “toxins” getting in to my laundry. Previous owner didn’t appear to have any vent installed in the room it is in. The L&L vent can be attached to the side of any kiln. You just drill the necessary small holes through the brick, usually two or three 1/4" holes, and screw the collection box to the outer jacket. With Skutt vents, as long as the kiln stand is an open frame you can use it. There doesn't need to be a special mounting area for either type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Montoya Catlin Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hi everyone! I am new to this forum and fairly new to ceramics. I am thinking of purchasing a used Cress FX-23p for $400. It was used for firing doll bodies and other porcelain items. It has not been used for awhile but worked fine while still making dolls. The seller said it can be tested on the spot (but I don't know what to do to test it). Here are a few photos, I have more if needed to see. I have no idea how old this kiln is as it is hard to find information on this model. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denice Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 It looks like a good deal to me, you won't need to add a vent in the garage as long as your not working in it at the same time. Is there a window near the area you are planning to put it? Denice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 It looks like it's in excellent shape. Are you sure that's not an fx 23-F? Those little metal plates can be illegible. If so, here's a listing for one of those brand new. https://products.cressmfg.com/item/ceramic-kilns/firemate-automatic-3/pn-1090 Does the 400 include any kiln furniture? That's a sweet little beginner kiln, and doll parts are typically fired at low fire temperatures, so I'm betting there's a lot of life in those elements if you want to go to cone 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 I moved this strand from In the studio, to here as it really fits better. best, Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 That's one of the best "Used" kilns, I've seen, especially for that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Montoya Catlin Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Denice said: It looks like a good deal to me, you won't need to add a vent in the garage as long as your not working in it at the same time. Is there a window near the area you are planning to put it? Denice Thank you, Denice! There is a window but it is not where I would put the kiln. I'll have to talk to my husband about where to vent it. I could open the garage door a bit too. The only thing I do in the garage is laundry so I wouldn't be out there much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Montoya Catlin Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Callie Beller Diesel said: It looks like it's in excellent shape. Are you sure that's not an fx 23-F? Those little metal plates can be illegible. If so, here's a listing for one of those brand new. https://products.cressmfg.com/item/ceramic-kilns/firemate-automatic-3/pn-1090 Does the 400 include any kiln furniture? That's a sweet little beginner kiln, and doll parts are typically fired at low fire temperatures, so I'm betting there's a lot of life in those elements if you want to go to cone 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Montoya Catlin Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hi Callie. Thank you for your reply. Here are some pictures of the plates. I don't know about furniture, I'll have to ask. They did say there were "a bunch of supplies" for $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Take the supplies also, those full and 1/2 shelves are worth $100. best, Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Montoya Catlin Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Thanks you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denice Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 I purchase a kiln that was in bad shape for $100, it came with boxes and boxes of stilts and several good shelves. The kiln side walls and floor were covered in glaze, I saved the kiln sittter, lid and the stilts and shelves. The rest of it went into the trash. Denice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Montoya Catlin Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 UPDATE! I did buy the kiln and in those boxes and some others are about 30 boxes of cones and shelf stilts among other items like sand. The electrician came over yesterday and installed 220 and fired up the kiln and it works! Now, I have to make some items to fire. Thank you all again for your help. I'll post my results later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanie Baby Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 6/21/2018 at 10:28 AM, JohnnyK said: I've been using an Fx23P which I bought "slightly used" for $500 a few years ago. It sat in my garage until my B23HT got too tired to make it to ^6. I sold that kiln as a bisque/low fire kiln for $200 (it was around 40 yrs old) and started using the FX about a year ago after adding an Orton digital controller. After a few tests to get it dialed in, I couldn't be happier. It has a kiln sitter which drove me nuts the first few times I used the digital controller because I kept forgetting to set the timer and hitting the start button. The kiln has been great with temp distribution ...1/2 cone difference between the top and the bottom of the kiln despite the wide space in the middle between the elements. No real complaints here! How much was the Orton controller? Do you have a link or model number to the controller you purchased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen123456789 Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 I’m wondering if anyone can explain the difference between a ceramic kiln and a glass fusing kiln? Can they be interchanged? I do glass not ceramics, but there is a Cress model FX23P for sale close to me. I’m looking for a second kiln and would love a deep kiln like this one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Glass kilns generally are not designed to fire high enough for ceramics. Ceramic kilns on the other hand easily can fuse glass using standard glass fusing programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Some glass kilns have elements in the lid. I use a ceramics kiln for glass and clay. Works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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