oldlady Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 any suggestions on another way to present these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Woodin Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 any suggestions on another way to present these? You could try some light blues, .3 Cobalt Carb, varying % of Rutile. Rutile by itself sometimes produces great colors try line blend up to 12% . Lovely pots. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Same base glaze with some stain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia UK Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 If you use a transparent glaze you can add various oxides and stains - copper carbonate from 0.5 - 5% will give you from celadon to mid green, cobalt carbonate will give a range of cobalt blues. As David says a small amount of rutile or red iron oxide added makes the blue more subtle if straight cobalt blue is too harsh for your taste. Similarly, as Min says, glaze stains - around 10% will open up the whole colour palette for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Um, if you use stains in a transparent glaze I would start with 1/2% and go up in 1/2% increments to about 4% to start with. The liner for this mug has 2% stain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 thank you all. i have mixed this particular transparent glaze with many stains and some carbonates to make wonderful colors. my trouble is that i am too literal. if it is a leaf, it SHOULD be green. since nearly everything i do involves leaves, everything is green. well, the cat could be something else but he is a christmas cat looking at an ornament on a christmas tree. i have to make my head accept other colors. then hope the buying public likes the same colors. sigh........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayaldridge Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 You might think about an ash glaze, or a fake ash glaze, which could still be green but add many other colors and textures to the mix. Or you might think about developing a glaze that trembles on the edge of crystallizing to achieve a more complex surface. Many of my favorite glazes I use over slips containing titania. They will often absorb enough titania to go crystalline if cooled a bit more slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Perhaps you are applying the "literal" side of your personality to your glaze choices? I think they would look just as lovely with other coloured glazes, a soft pale gray or yellow glaze maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 A black underglaze wash over the leaves and dragonfly will highlight the textures/lines and provide a nice contrast to the green glaze. Might also work with a rutile wash, but that could interact differently with your green glaze. I make a small dish from the impression of a hosta leaf; glazed with a green celadon. A shop I had them in asked if I also did the leaf in "fall colors". I explained that hostas go straight from green to ugly yellow/brown with no nice colors in between. The owners said it did not matter, just make some red and orange ones -- buyers would not care. So, I reluctantly made a small group of red, orange, and multi-colored hostas and dropped them off. Shop called back a couple weeks later and asked for more as all had sold. Unfortunately, the weather had turned and I no longer had any hostas from which to make impressions. So, try some other colors . . . people will buy the colors they like; if they want real, they will choose green. If they want it to match their décor, they will choose another color. And, it you want to try something really different, apply decals over the leaves/animals/etc for a different look. Maybe add some lusters, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I was thinking along the autumnal colours on the leaves as in Bciske's response. And Min had a lovely..sorry Min weak word there, amber/honey glaze which if used over the leaves which had been accented as BCISKE suggests, would look attractive to the non green blue people of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I hope this link works ... It's an image of Alissa Claussens finished glaze tests that might inspire you. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207522537523601&set=a.1934512084530.2112354.1294156826&type=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 You already have that lovely blue you used on some of your other pieces. Have you tried achieving a glaze in between the 2 not quite blue but not true green either? It might be a nice transistor for you if changing colors dramatically is too abrupt for you and your customers. Orrrr do what I do do up a few of the same type piece ALL in different colors and let the customers guide your color shift. Trust me I NEVER thought orange, red, yellow and green would be colors I EVER used. Then I decided to to an homage to fall and well let's just say I've Fall'n in love with it. I started with leaves (of course) then added mini dishes moved onto spoon rests and now have a full line in those colors. A nice thing I have found is that men are really attracted to it right along with women. In fact the mugs always sell out and every one goes home with a man. Lol Good luck deciding what to do! I look forward to seeing your color journey! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 I'm with bciske & Babs..some light touches with black underglaze and/or amber-rust family might look terrific. I could also see a contrast of clear glaze over the clay body and color on the designs, or in reverse, clear glaze on the clay body of the designs and a color background. They are lovely items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 bruce, you might have seen these at lucketts or bluemont. i did black underglaze wiped off on several pieces that had been bisqued in florida. i only bisque then, the rest of the year pots are single fired. you can't wipe greenware or you lose the texture which is the whole point of the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 For your one-fire items, you could try applying the underglaze/stain to the bisque mold and have the platter/tray pick it up when you roll the slab on the bisque mold. Or applying the wash to the leaves before you roll them into the slab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Perhaps our next challenge should be an "anything but green". Seriously tho', Old Lady, people will buy anything made in any colour if the quality is good, and IF they like it. Green might be the "correct" colour, but I wouldn't buy it no matter how perfect it was. Make it in sunrise red/orange/yellow and I could be your biggest customer. Or even in plain white. Some of the best sculptures/animals/pots I've seen look fantastic just white. I have a pot with daffodil flowers, leaves and stems carved into it. When did you ever see white leaves? As a CEO said at a shareholders meeting....... for the employees amongst you... learn to love it...... Good luck with your new foray into the colour wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 great suggestions, i will try some colors i have not previously used. interesting idea, bruce, might just color up some leaves again. used the wrong background for the maple leaves last spring. ugh! of course, rolling leaves down into clay and then covering everything with a slip works well. i did some of that technique this year. not all have sold in the tiny store that carries my pots. i will remove them and take to the big guild sale in winchester. along with the new ones i make this week. leaves are mostly on the ground now. ginko still in refrigerator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakukookoo Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 But ohhhhhhhh it's such a perfect green! I just mixed up my first batch of it and will fire next weekend. I can only hope it turns out as good as yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 stop! just got word that if it goes on very dark, which happens sometimes, it is changing to one unsafe to use on food surfaces. because i spray and single fire and on top of all that, i pack the kiln tight, i need to change something. i tested one of the very dark flat trays by pouring some lemon juice on it. within a few hours, there was a film on the juice and part of the dark green was gone. i consulted a glaze expert and he said that the chemicals used in today's dishwashing detergent can also attack the glaze and lighten it over time. fortunately, most of the things i sell in that color are not used for storage of food, just serving. it is unlikely that someone will put tomato sauce or some other kind of acid on the glazed piece and keep it for a few days. but it could happen so i must change the glaze. since i want transparency, and green, i am going to try some of the mason stain greens that are on my shelf. naturally, i just made up a 10,000 gram batch including the copper carbonate that is the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 i just made up a 10,000 gram batch including the copper carbonate that is the culprit. does your base glaze have enough silica and alumina? how much copper are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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