Cyndis Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 I have embedded 24 gauge wire in ornaments and bisqued to cone 06. After glazing, I am hoping to fire them to con five. I am using a 17 gauge wire, hung on a cone 10 rod and hoping they do not sag too much. Any thoughts? Any experience, many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Hi and welcome to the forum! What type of wire are you using? How heavy are the ornaments? Could you post a picture of the setup? Pres 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndis Posted October 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 Ornaments are approximately 19-24 grams (.6 of an ounce) or so. I have gone ahead and put six on a cone 10 rod with hangers (gauge 17) through the wires on the ornaments (gauge 24) looped over the rod. I normally stilt them….but wanted to give this a try. Believe me…. I am nervous. I will post a photo after I open then kiln. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 What kind of wire? Pres 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 So you've got a cone 10 ceramic rod, and over the rod is a series of 17 gauge loops that hold the ornaments? So the ceramic rod is what you're worried about sagging correct? The wires will probably be fine. The only answer we can give regarding the rod is 'maybe'. It all depends on how thick the rod is, how long the span is, how much weight it's carrying, etc. There's no way to know until you try it. Worst can scenario, the rod bends so much that it falls off its supports and you end up with a pile of stuff on the kiln shelf. Best case it works great. Babs and Rae Reich 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinR Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Assuming that your wire will fire to cone 6 without melting, the span of your rod needs to be addressed. If the rod sags at all the wires will slide together. If the length of the rod is worrying put a support in the middle. A shelf support of the right height will work. lin Rae Reich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndis Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Babs said: What kind of wire? Kemper gauge 17 and 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndis Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Babs said: What kind of wire? Gauge 17 and 24 Kemper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 We are asking if the wire is Nichrome or Kanthal, which is the material it’s made of, not so much the size of the wire. If the wire is Nichrome, it’ll have a lower heat tolerance than the Kanthal will. To be fair, there’s no mention of its composition or firing limits in most online product listings when I do a google search, and the sales language is VERY misleading. Kemper refers to high temperature in relation to a lot of their products that are meant for low fire. So “high temperature” also includes mid-fire by their definition. If you go to the Kemper website, there is a product labelled High Temperature Wire, and they do say that it will tolerate up to cone 5. At cone ten, I would not be surprised to see distortion. Rae Reich and Babs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndis Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Okay, thanks for the explanation. It doesn’t say what cone on the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 No it doesn’t, and that’s really foolish of them, IMO. Babs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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