Jump to content

Weird mold making issue


Recommended Posts

Hello everyone.

I wanted to create a mold for slipcasting of little figurine. It is very simple object for 2 part mold. As a filler I used stoneware clay and fill exactly half the object, made everything very smooth and nice and everything exactly according to many tutorials I watched. But after demolding my object there is same issue third time in the row.  Plaster is not in the half but much lower under the center line I made. I'm using gyprock  pottery plaster. My guess is that clay is sucking water out of the plaster, expanding and pushing figurine up. I would appreciate the answer if somebody bumped into the same problem before. Thank you for your time.

333114361_572890994896664_6500810972080315535_n.jpg

Edited by Handy Goblin
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Handy Goblin changed the title to Weird mold making issue

I'm having trouble visualising your process.

1) Can you reference one of the tutorials you are basing your process on?

2) You print a hollow figure then "As a filler I used stoneware clay and fill exactly half the object". As I assume you are trying to take a mould of the outside of the figure why not just entirely fill it with clay? (Obviously I'm missing something here.)

3) You seem to be trying to take a casting of the lower side of the figure which is presumably resting on plywood. I'm far more familiar with first taking a casting of the upper half of the figure, with the lower half embedded in clay. As shown in :
Mold Making and Plaster Mixing 101
http://www.davidwbolton.com/uploads/5/5/1/4/55145091/moldmaking_and_plaster.pdf
image.png.495a470733aaeab827c90c5e6b7af9ad.png

Then flipping and casting the other side
image.png.142c2adc1f61f2f4a45136623d4d1f22.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I see there is plenty of miscommunication :lol:

1.Tutorials I follow mostly are from Hammerly ceramics and VanTiki on YouTube. 

2. The printed figurine is solid. As filler I ment clay around the figurine.

3. What you see on picture is demolded object flip around. I do exactly what you posted on picture Mold Making and Plaster Mixing 101

Well I will let you know if I figure it out. Maybe I do something stupid what I'm not realizing 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry I took Sydney to mean in Australia --Now my guess is England-as I have never heard of Sydney as a country

If you are claying up the form and its to the 1/2 way point  and then you pour the plaster and the line is less than 1/2 way the only way that can happen is the form floats up or gets pushed down depending on whats going on. What type of clay are you using for the claying up? and is the form moving in the process?I did read up on that plster and it looks fine for molds.. I have never seen this issue so go back to basics make sure you clay up to the 1/2 mark -use wet firm clay to clay up.Pour the plaster over a form and clay that has release on it.

3rd times a charm they say

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you for your patience.

Looking at the figure in the as-cast orientation:
CastingFigure.jpg.b51fd225829a42ed97a9711ef5aac7cf.jpg

... and assuming that the dotted line marks the intended parting-line, and is where the clay was positioned before casting.

The current position of the plaster suggests that:
- either the figure has moved away from the plaster after casting (perhaps as the embedding clay was pulled away)
- or the embedding clay moved to enclose more of the figure during the casting (difficult to imagine, especially given the cleanly cast edge)

Can you pull the figure out of the plaster and look at the cast. Is the cast "clean"? How far up the figure would the cast go?

Can you push the figure back into the cast. How far does it go in?

Obviously any undercuts will hinder the movement of the figure relative to the plaster.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hello Handy,

Not quite sure why this is happening to you. When the "unexpected" happens to me I just roll with it. Rather than try to figure out why this is happening I would simply use this first casting as a "throw away" mold and continue pouring the mold. 

When you pour the second half it will likely go beyond half way and may hold onto the piece. In this case I would take a small trimming tool and carve back the plaster. (to the line you indicated/prefer)

Generally speaking I do not pour molds off clay.  (as the embedding material) If the form is complex I may use clay for that first pour but once plaster is poured I use that as the embedding material. (And discard the piece that was poured against clay.) This way I can more easily control the parting line and create a mold with nice tight seams.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.