Ang Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Hi everyone, I’m at a loss right now, hope someone here has encountered a similar issue. My kiln was in need of an element change for quite some time, so I finally took the time to change the elements (and thermocouples, and relays) but now the dang thing won’t work at all. I’ve tried multiple times, but I’m getting absolutely no heat whatsoever. I feel like if its was an issue with some of the connections the kiln would at least be partially heating up, but I’m getting absolutely nothing. I’ve changed the elements of this kiln many times but I’m now questioning my own sanity as to if I’ve wired it wrong this time around. I’m linking some pictures to show you all. I never worked with live voltage before, I don’t have the equipment to measure it. Would you recommend I attempt that? I live in Toronto and I haven’t found ANY kiln technicians online yet. My supplier hasn’t responded me with recommendations either. This kiln is the livelihood of myself and 4 more people, I am absolutely terrified of the idea of not being able to fix it. Let me know if you have any input at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) Can you confirm that: - the controller is "alive" - it behaved exactly as it did when starting previous firings - it isn't displaying an error message Did you hear any relay clicks? PS Diagrams at http://coneartkilnsshop.com/index.php/wiring-diagrams/ ... are you using 240v? http://coneartkilnsshop.com//wp-content/uploads/Wiring_Diagrams/pottery/BXGX_1822D_1240rev21Aug23.pdf http://coneartkilnsshop.com//wp-content/uploads/Wiring_Diagrams/pottery/BXGX_1822D_1208rev21Aug23.pdf Edited February 17 by PeterH Hulk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Does the kiln have a safety switch on the lid? If so, it may be out of adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ang Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, PeterH said: Can you confirm that: - the controller is "alive" - it behaved exactly as it did when starting previous firings - it isn't displaying an error message Did you hear any relay clicks? PS Diagrams at http://coneartkilnsshop.com/index.php/wiring-diagrams/ ... are you using 240v? http://coneartkilnsshop.com//wp-content/uploads/Wiring_Diagrams/pottery/BXGX_1822D_1240rev21Aug23.pdf http://coneartkilnsshop.com//wp-content/uploads/Wiring_Diagrams/pottery/BXGX_1822D_1208rev21Aug23.pdf Yes to all that, the controller is working just the same. The voltage (240v) is correct on all elements, unless the supplier mislabelled the parts which is very unlikely. The error message is Error 1 Clicks are happening, but no heat at all is coming through. I've checked the diagram every time, everything look right to me. Let me post the pictures, they might help: https://imgur.com/a/fVVoAZe Thank you so much for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ang Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 6 hours ago, neilestrick said: Does the kiln have a safety switch on the lid? If so, it may be out of adjustment. It doesn't have one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ang said: Let me post the pictures, they might help: https://imgur.com/a/fVVoAZe Just appears the element jumpers are mis wired.. wire per the schematic and you should be good to go. Confirm what I have drawn on the kiln in violet, then reconfigure jumpers so elements are in parallel. If my drawing is right, the current jumpers are jumping out the elements. Change to More like what I have drawn in red. Edited February 18 by Bill Kielb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Looks like it's wired wrong. You've got a wire going from the relay to the element, then jumping to the other end of the element. Each element needs both wires from the relay. So the relay wires should go to one element, then jump to the other element: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) On 2/17/2024 at 12:36 PM, Ang said: I never worked with live voltage before, I don’t have the equipment to measure it. Would you recommend I attempt that? There is a half-way house you might consider. Using a digital meter on a disconnected kiln. Measuring the resistance between connectors 2 & 6 on the relays before and after your changes would have clearly indicated a wiring problem while the kiln was still open. Probably before you had started rewiring the second element pair. The measurement could also give and indication of when the elements need replacing. Ideally you would like to know the resistance of each element, but that would require breaking & remaking the connections. Edited February 18 by PeterH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ang Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 Guys! You're all out here saving lives! For the life of me I don't know how I read this chart so wrong, I swear I have the worst case of pregnancy brain. I hope this post one day helps someone as clueless as I was! Thanks a million!! Bill Kielb and Hulk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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