VladCruceanu Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Spent good hours looking at this pot and trying to understand how can I do something similar. https://goods.bonsaimirai.com/collections/test-ceramics/products/geometric-square-no-1 Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liambesaw Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Well you could go at it from two ways, addition or subtraction. Addition you can build a slab box and then add the angled accent pieces, subtraction the other way, build a thick walled box and use a cutter to make facets. That's how I'd go at it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Throws Pots Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Start with a solid block of clay and carve away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladCruceanu Posted October 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Many thanks, you opened my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabby Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think the word for carving such a vessel off the block is kurinuki. You can find youtube demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Carving is probably how they did it. Personally, I'd probably do a combination of that, and some slab additions, to get the precise "sides". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinbucket Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 I would also suggest starting solid and carving away. If you want an angular form like that use a cut off wire or straight edged trimming tool to slice away. You can go at the block of clay with pretty much anything but I think it will be easier if you have some variation of the form in mind before you start cutting. Also! Look at Tim Rowan's work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1515art Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Hard to say exactly how, he probably uses a combination of techniques depending on the piece. If it were me and I was making only one or two carving would work (taking away), if I were making more than a couple, or if they were large l would use clay slabs in a form assembled on/in a form and do alterations. Friend of mine when I was working out of a studio in Berkley, Ca. Was building giant planters for commercial buildings these were angular pieces 3’x4’x3’ he would pull them from the wood supports and beat them with metal chains and other stuff to give them texture. I might also try using a multi part plaster press/cast mold and then hand alterations if I wanted to do large production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladCruceanu Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 It's great that now I understand the used techniques to build this type of pot, I am very curious what will come out from my first cube of clay carving. It seems very difficult (like everything which is great) and for sure surprises and challenges will appear during the work. Using the slab building - addition method works too, I have built a similar object but it's still far away from what I have tried to achieve. However, subtraction seems to be the way to go, or a combination of several techniques. Cutting all the paper pieces and establishing the construction sequence is very important, yet difficult for this kind of pot, especially when starting from a couple of pictures, and not having the pot in front of you. There are different shapes that needs to be combined at different angles, pieces that differ in thickness and totally irregular foots. Another thing is that the pot base is straight and everything around it is totally different (thickness, shapes, angles and so on). Any way, it's a well received challenge and something that I will pursue. Many thanks all for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabby Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 hours ago, VladCruceanu said: It's great that now I understand the used techniques to build this type of pot, I am very curious what will come out from my first cube of clay carving. It seems very difficult (like everything which is great) and for sure surprises and challenges will appear during the work. Using the slab building - addition method works too, I have built a similar object but it's still far away from what I have tried to achieve. However, subtraction seems to be the way to go, or a combination of several techniques. Cutting all the paper pieces and establishing the construction sequence is very important, yet difficult for this kind of pot, especially when starting from a couple of pictures, and not having the pot in front of you. There are different shapes that needs to be combined at different angles, pieces that differ in thickness and totally irregular foots. Another thing is that the pot base is straight and everything around it is totally different (thickness, shapes, angles and so on). Any way, it's a well received challenge and something that I will pursue. Many thanks all for your help. Don't forget to share the photo if you can! When I tried kurinuki, I used really groggy clay. That way it holds its shape through dramatic cuts rather than collapsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladCruceanu Posted November 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 The clay I am ordering is coming as 10 kg packages. To make a cube of clay, let's say 40 cm sides, so I can start carving it, I should combine several 10 kg packages. Probably 3 package for this dimension. If I will put one package on another and press it, will it combine? Having a very groggy clay I think that I won't be able to push it so hard and it won't get one whole piece of clay. A smaller cube is pretty easy to make, but how about a large one for a big pot? Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Mostert Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 If you want to start with a solid cube with 40 cm sides, you'd need over 100 kg of clay (assuming the density of clay you're using is similar to that given here). I suggest starting with a shape that's more like a box with thick walls. With 30 kg of clay, you can make a cubical box with 40 cm sides and walls 8 - 9 cm thick. This will also make it easier to join the separate pieces of clay together. Having groggy clay helps, but I think you'll need to be very careful about how you dry the pot to stop it cracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladCruceanu Posted November 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Anyone knows about a video of somebody doing a pot with the subtraction method? I cannot find on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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