redbourn Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Has anyone tried this company's oxy-probe? They are Swiss. I was just quoted a price, delivered to NC, that is about half Axner's price. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I got a quote as well last fall heres one of the e-mails Well you're right we never sell the potter probe with a sheath on this side of the planet. ... for some reasons potters here never ask for it.. Would a loose tube be ok ? or do you want it to be part of the probe assembly ? Heres my take as I answered yes and they said it would be free to add on. They do not use in Europe the outer protection tube but they will put on if you ask or they did in my discussion with them. You need this outer tube to protect your wire so make sure that is what you are getting in your order Other than that keep in mind that somneday you will need it repaired (platuin wire wears out after hundreds of firings)I have worn out about 3-4 of them. so Axnerand Bailey and Geil are the only repair places. Giel is a bit spendy on repair-My last repair was this January with Axner and it was reasonable. I have never dealy with Bailey on a probe I would buy one from them now(Swiss) if I needed a new one-I have 4 working ones now which leaves me a few spares. Please let us know and post a photo of it if you can as I'm curious of what it looks like. I'm sure its well made and the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPots Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Do you have a link for the Swiss oxyprobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, CactusPots said: Do you have a link for the Swiss oxyprobe? FYI - Last I looked, identical to what I have been using. https://www.econox.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbourn Posted April 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 The link cited by Bill Kielb is the one I used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbourn Posted April 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 11:45 AM, Mark C. said: I got a quote as well last fall heres one of the e-mails Well you're right we never sell the potter probe with a sheath on this side of the planet. ... for some reasons potters here never ask for it.. Would a loose tube be ok ? or do you want it to be part of the probe assembly ? Heres my take as I answered yes and they said it would be free to add on. They do not use in Europe the outer protection tube but they will put on if you ask or they did in my discussion with them. You need this outer tube to protect your wire so make sure that is what you are getting in your order Other than that keep in mind that somneday you will need it repaired (platuin wire wears out after hundreds of firings)I have worn out about 3-4 of them. so Axnerand Bailey and Geil are the only repair places. Giel is a bit spendy on repair-My last repair was this January with Axner and it was reasonable. I have never dealy with Bailey on a probe I would buy one from them now(Swiss) if I needed a new one-I have 4 working ones now which leaves me a few spares. Please let us know and post a photo of it if you can as I'm curious of what it looks like. I'm sure its well made and the price is right. I will send a photo when it arrives. Thanks for the advice about repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPots Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 They don't post prices? You have to call them for a quote? When you say their price was half of Axner, does that include the control/monitor? What was your quote? I'm leaning toward the Bailey unit. $1275 You think Axner, Bailey or Geil would service this probe? Got the stimulus check and now need to stimulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Yes you email them for the quote-its is the probe and a meter-you can ask about the meter (I did not) My quote was 875.00 delivered if I recall Way cheaper than any domestic probe-Axner will rewire any probe as they are all the same including this one-just a silver solder platinum rewire deal away from the hot end. Cost is usually reapit is under 200$ no need to send in the meter.Just the probe Thier meter looks the same as all others-saving 400$ makes sense really. My last two meters where used for 500$ but If I bough new it would be this Swiss meter for sure. Geil repairs cost the most-I had a friend who had his repaired and it was over $500. but it was busted up bad. It needed all new stuff not just wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPots Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 The Bailey $1275 includes the meter. The Swiss monitoring unit adds some bells and whistles that I might consider paying for, data recording and heat monitoring as well as oxygen. The probe itself looks like a toss up, the tech isn't appreciably different. I do want a meter with the probe. I did send them an email, so we'll see how fast they respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 The meter for all the brands is just a simple meter. Not much diffferent than a simple ohm meter really. Whats the rush money burning hole in pocket?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPots Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 The ControX V2.0 module offers calculation and display of oxygen concentration (%O2, ppm, or log), and display of temperature (°C or °F), in one compact package. Easily accessible connectors on the side of the module offer quick connection of analog outputs, 4-20 mA outputs. A USB port is included as standard. From their website. So a bit more than a simple meter. Based on the price of this unit, which I do not know, it would be an upgrade over the ohm meter. The hole in pocket is due to the check from the Feds and the wife's go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, CactusPots said: The ControX V2.0 module offers calculation and display of oxygen concentration (%O2, ppm, or log), and display of temperature (°C or °F), in one compact package. Easily accessible connectors on the side of the module offer quick connection of analog outputs, 4-20 mA outputs. A USB port is included as standard. From their website. So a bit more than a simple meter. Based on the price of this unit, which I do not know, it would be an upgrade over the ohm meter. The hole in pocket is due to the check from the Feds and the wife's go ahead. The probes contain a type R thermocouple and outputs roughly 0-1.4 v for O2 so if ya want you could get any digital appliance probably in the 20 -30 dollar range and have a large Two line digital display of percent and temperature. Not sure how much this is but there are many meters capable of storing and outputting via bluetooth, usb, etc.. I am not saying this isn’t worth every penny just saying if it turns out to be hundreds then I would probably rethink it based on my level of comfort with putting this stuff together. If you are fairly handy, it’s pretty easy to create way cool stuff. If not, this might be the ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPots Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 I'd probably have to confirm with the Swiss outfit, but if their probe does send a temperature reading along with the 02, that's unique, right? I mean to say no other probe does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 On any axner probe you can just switch the meter to Temperature readings-they are on a different scale that needs a chart to interpret-(pain in ass) Meaning its a number scale and they provide a chart that shows the numbers on a temp scale.I just use my digital meter (old chaep fluke) much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 hours ago, CactusPots said: I'd probably have to confirm with the Swiss outfit, but if their probe does send a temperature reading along with the 02, that's unique, right? I mean to say no other probe does that. It’s a common way to make the probe. A Type R thermocouple Is sort of ideal to use as a voltage source. Their probe seems identical to the Axner probe. I haven’t looked in a while but I believe they list the type R thermocouple and zirconia for the O2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbourn Posted May 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 On 4/28/2020 at 1:48 PM, Mark C. said: Yes you email them for the quote-its is the probe and a meter-you can ask about the meter (I did not) My quote was 875.00 delivered if I recall Way cheaper than any domestic probe-Axner will rewire any probe as they are all the same including this one-just a silver solder platinum rewire deal away from the hot end. Cost is usually reapit is under 200$ no need to send in the meter.Just the probe Thier meter looks the same as all others-saving 400$ makes sense really. My last two meters where used for 500$ but If I bough new it would be this Swiss meter for sure. Geil repairs cost the most-I had a friend who had his repaired and it was over $500. but it was busted up bad. It needed all new stuff not just wire. My quote to North Carolina was $691, delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CactusPots Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 They didn't return my email in a week, so I'm buying elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, redbourn said: My quote to North Carolina was $691, delivered. Ya I live futher out in the boonies -everthing costs more here but pottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 2, 2020 Report Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, CactusPots said: They didn't return my email in a week, so I'm buying elsewhere. I think you may be limited where you can buy a meter right now with many places shuttered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbourn Posted May 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, CactusPots said: They didn't return my email in a week, so I'm buying elsewhere. I'm surprised because a person named Cyril got back to me right away, several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, redbourn said: I'm surprised because a person named Cyril got back to me right away, several times. Same for me it was a day or two response -maybe check your spam filter stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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