Glazing on already glazed tiles

[Dutch Brian]

I have a stack of ordinary while glazed wall tiles. I’d like to ‘paint’ them and then fire the new decoration in. I’ve got an electric kiln. I’ve glazed and fired posts before but I’ve not done this before. Would someone please tell me if it’s possibel and if so, how do I do this?

[Stephen]

check out china paint and overglaze

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_painting

[Fred Sweet]

Dutch-

do a member search on Paul Lewing here in the forum. He is the author of China Paint and Overglazes, available at: 

https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/shop/the-paul-lewing-china-painting-collection/

You can also PM him from the forum.

Regards,

Fred

[preeta]

What are going to do with those painted and fired tiles? Countertop? Or a wall piece. 

Wonder if you can find out if they are high fire or low fire tiles.  

Ive used underglazes 04 glazes and even phototransfer with Oxide ink on them. 

[Dutch Brian]

16 hours ago, Stephen said:

check out china paint and overglaze

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_painting

Thanks Stephen. I read the article and I'm going to do a test tile.

[Dutch Brian]

2 hours ago, preeta said:

What are going to do with those painted and fired tiles? Countertop? Or a wall piece. 

Wonder if you can find out if they are high fire or low fire tiles.  

Ive used underglazes 04 glazes and even phototransfer with Oxide ink on them. 

Hi Preeta, I guess the only way is to treat a tile as if it is high and assess the result. They are wall tiles for a splash back above the countertop, which happens to be 4.8 meters long. Plenty of scope for painting over multiple tiles. :-)

[preeta]

Brian make some test pieces(it goes without saying eh?!). 

In my limited experience at our JC low fired tiles didn’t do very well (however we did not do China paint). The high fire did much better.  Finish was better. We ended up using the low fire tiles in murals   

 

[Magnolia Mud Research]

Paul Lewing recently posed to Clayart that he has "partnered with an online art school to bring my china painting workshop to more people.  This is a new school, owned by Antoinette and Koos Badenhorst, out of Saltillo, Mississippi, called TeachinArt.  This is a 6-week video class with demonstrations, assignments and critiques.  It's as close to what I do in my in-person workshops as we could make it, and I'm very pleased with it.  The first class will start in mid-September and pre-registration is open now.  Go to http://teachinart.com/index.html " 

LT
 

[Dutch Brian]

13 hours ago, preeta said:

Brian make some test pieces(it goes without saying eh?!). 

In my limited experience at our JC low fired tiles didn’t do very well (however we did not do China paint). The high fire did much better.  Finish was better. We ended up using the low fire tiles in murals   

 

Thanks. I’ll start with low fired. See how it goes. My responses are ‘time delayed’, being over the water here in the Netherlands. Attending workshops over there would be nice, I just have to win the lottery first. Brian.

[Paul Lewing]

Hi.  Paul Lewing here.  Fred Sweet told me he'd seen this topic and told me I should check it out.

If these are standard white glazed wall tiles,, they are undoubtedly low-fire.  At least here in the US they would be.  You can put low-fire cone 04 glazes on them and retire them but there's no telling how that will come out.  Usually it completely changes the glaze that's already there and interacts with the glaze you put on them.  China paints are your best option.  It will be more like painting than any other ceramic process you can do, and won't change the glaze that's on there.  You may be able to find a china painting teacher near you, but as someone else pointed out, we have just opened my online course with TeachinArt.com for early registration.  It starts September 24th.

[Rae Reich]

There are overglaze enamels that come in tubes and are easily painted on, then fired at ^018-19 like china paints. 

Cool refired commercial tiles slowly to avoid breakage. Firing on edge would probably help too. 

[Dutch Brian]

5 hours ago, Paul Lewing said:

Hi.  Paul Lewing here.  Fred Sweet told me he'd seen this topic and told me I should check it out.

If these are standard white glazed wall tiles,, they are undoubtedly low-fire.  At least here in the US they would be.  You can put low-fire cone 04 glazes on them and retire them but there's no telling how that will come out.  Usually it completely changes the glaze that's already there and interacts with the glaze you put on them.  China paints are your best option.  It will be more like painting than any other ceramic process you can do, and won't change the glaze that's on there.  You may be able to find a china painting teacher near you, but as someone else pointed out, we have just opened my online course with TeachinArt.com for early registration.  It starts September 24th.

That’s great news Paul, thanks. I called three local tile specialist outlets. My question was ‘too technical’. I eventually found a tile factory who confirmed they low-fire and my tiles are almost certain to be low-fire. Then I couldn’t get the guy off the phone because he had someone who was interested in what he does. Small price.