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#1 Darcy Kane

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:15 AM

Glazing is my least favorite part of the process. I should be firing in salt/soda/wood but oxidation/electric is what it is, so I need to make the best of it. I'm thinking I should try spraying my glazes and therefore am on the hunt to arm myself with the perfect gun. I did a cursory search of the archives and didn't have anything pop up so I thought I would ask what types of spray guns people have used to glazing and their favorites. I haven't bought one yet and I would love to be able to start out with a good one instead of buying six and then finding out which one I should have bought from the get go.

Also while I am at it, I used a wax resist over an oribe glaze and it changed the color of the glaze, not pretty. Suggestions on benign resist products please.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 07:57 AM

I like simple spray guns like The Critter or EZ spray. They don't clog up, are student proof, and still function if they get rusty.
I haven't tried it yet, but the new removable wax resist from the Ceramics Store in Philadelphia sounds like it would be good for your applications since you can remove it before firing.

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:34 AM

Dharsi, I bought a High Volume, Low Pressure Spray Gun Kit (the compressor is built in so it is everything you need for $120) from Harbor Freight 4 years ago thinking that it would fall apart in 2 months but would give me a chance to learn how to spray glazes and then I'd get something better, but even after buying several expensive spray guns and two compressors over the past few years I still sometimes go back to that original Harbor Freight cheap set up. The two pots below were sprayed using it. I also use the set up recommended by Steven Hill, the top gun of glaze spraying. So, my main recommendation is that you buy "The Surface Techniques of Steven Hill" from the Ceramic Art Daily bookstore (expensive but worth it). Not only do you get the next best thing to a Steven Hill workshop on the disk but you also get glaze recipes (unfortunately, there are mistakes!!!) and a pdf of "Spraying Equipment Recommendations". He says the Geil Spray Gun (www.kilns.com/Spray_Gun.htm) is "all around good full size gravity spray gun." He says the TCP Global Spray Gun (www.tcpglobal.com/spraygundepot/tcpgate.aspx) is "best all around gravity gun bargain. Starter set with 2 full size and 1 detail gun for $100!" I'd also recommend the TCP set because you'll need a detail gun.

Hope this helps.
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 11:47 AM

I have at least 4 spray guns which is funny as I do 99% of glazing without one.
The gravity gun mentioned above is a good one- I have used it some. I have a very small one gallon tank compressor that is super quite which powers these guns. Another one I like is a 1 quart bottom container it all aluminum Its been working for years its a Paasche type L.
I use the Harbor freight one a lot with salt pots . It works great with the only downside is its super loud. This gun really puts out the material and is a snap to clean up all plastic.
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#5 Darcy Kane

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:16 PM

PERFECT! Thank you folks, just what I was looking for. I guess I need to break down and buy the SH vid too. Geesh I'm cheap :)

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 05:37 PM

PERFECT! Thank you folks, just what I was looking for. I guess I need to break down and buy the SH vid too. Geesh I'm cheap :)


Yeah, you do. Steven Hill is great. Love the fact that he worked in cone 10 reduction for so long and suddenly had the revelation that cone 10 reduction isn't better, stronger or in any way superior to cone 6 electric. I think the pot you pictured in your last post will look good with SCM Warm and Juicy Fruit sprayed over the whole surface then circles of Water Color Green, Turquoise over that and an ash running down over those and a touch of black on the handles.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 05:21 AM

Well there ya go Jim, I couldn't possibly dip all those colors without creating a colossal mess, if at all. I'm going to have to start spraying for sure. Right now I am finishing up my ^10 clay and glazes and plan to make the switch to ^6 when all is gone. On one hand I hate the hassle of changing over and on the other hand I look forward to trying something new. I will break down and get SH's video in the meantime. Thank you everyone for your input.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:37 AM

.. I should be firing in salt/soda/wood ... am on the hunt to arm myself with the perfect gun.



I suggest you have a look at the AK47.
It is a well proven gun and it does not matter what you spray it into, it is bound to hit the target.
You can fire at wood or anything, and the spray is greater in e.g. dense foliage than in thin air.
For more accuracy and less spread the M16 is probably better.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 01:50 PM


.. I should be firing in salt/soda/wood ... am on the hunt to arm myself with the perfect gun.



I suggest you have a look at the AK47.
It is a well proven gun and it does not matter what you spray it into, it is bound to hit the target.
You can fire at wood or anything, and the spray is greater in e.g. dense foliage than in thin air.
For more accuracy and less spread the M16 is probably better.
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I like the idea of fully automatic!



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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:54 PM

Harbor Freight gravity feed gun works great.
Critter Sprayer siphon feed is awesome since threads mate up to a variety of containers (like small plastic mayonnaise jars)




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