GreyBird Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Hi Everyone, So like every beginner I am going through my "Shino" discovery phase I've mixed up my own Malcolm Davis Carbon Trap Shino of course based on all the gorgeous images I found on the internet... That's the look I want! Even all the wacky variations. Except, of course, for the one I got which is basically just brick red. (see attached) The clay body was a white stoneware and it was fired in a Gas reduction environment to cone 10 at the studio I being to. I have no control over firing schedule and from what I've read MD CT Shino requires Reduction early on for the Carbon Trap. But still, I'm wondering if I can do better than this (brick red) The recipe I used was this: Malcolm Davis Shino Soda Ash: 16.3 OM-4: 13 EPK: 17 Minspar: 9.3 Neph Sy: 38.6 Red Art: 5.7 I am wondering if I cut the redArt in half, or even leave it out entirely, if that would help. Anyone else have experience with this? The markings you see are where I painted on Wax Resist. I then let the piece sit for a few weeks. I am mixing up a new batch tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrim8 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I tried this one https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/ceramic-recipes/high-fire/malcolm-davis-carbon-trap-shino-glaze/# I didn't have any redart but I made it anyways- look for a no-iron substitute or just add more ball clay. I like the bright edges of the red marks on your pot though! How's your African Grey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyBird Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Hi Terri (Correct name?) Thanks for the reply! That's almost the same recipe. How did yours come out? Got any photos? What clay body do you use? My Grey's name is Dayo and she is my princess I LOVE parrots and also have two Cockatoos. They all keep me quite busy and on my toes. I was just reading another post on the topic and now I want to buy the book mentioned: American Shino The Glaze Of A Thousand Faces But it's $120.00! -Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrim8 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Names right! It was so long ago I can't remember but a less expensive book with lots of Shino recipes ( and other high fire recipes) is by John Britt. I like Penn State with lots of carbon trapping. We have cockatiels and they are pretty nice too! Is your book available at the library? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 In my experience, that shino works best on porcelain. It'll be much less red, more orange. And you need to reduce early, like when cone 012 starts moving. I recommend stalling out the kiln and making it smoke for 35-45 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyBird Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Terri, I wil look for the John Britt Book, Thanks! Cockatiels are awesome. Little guys with huge personalities Neil, Like so many others, I unfortunately have no control over the firing schedule so just trying to improve results within the parameters I have to work with. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick White Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I have found that shinos are toasty rusty red/brown when applied thin, and white when applied thicker. For the carbon trap, it has to start with the thicker application that would otherwise be white but for the early reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 2003 Studio Potter magazine had a list of different things to try with shino, it's reprinted here. (41 variations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 schaller gallery has a show right now online with shino and oribe glaze on the same pieces by Peter Karner. if you do not get regular notices from schaller gallery, you are missing out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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