PeterH Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, neilestrick said: Ideally, yes, but with the way the elements are wired in series that's not really possible. I wonder if they have a different element configuration on newer models that could be used. Would a 208V 3-phase to 208V single phase conversion have any attractions? Need a big transformer of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, neilestrick said: Ideally, yes, but with the way the elements are wired in series that's not really possible. I wonder if they have a different element configuration on newer models that could be used. Thinking in terms of wattage, the center series group is likely close in wattage to top and bottom so maybe 2500 w which means 11 amps so both centers likely could go on a single relay. If not, add a relay and parallel feed the relay coils as zone 2. It’s very likely all possible Just need to know the real values of everything to figure out the best way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, PeterH said: Would a 208V 3-phase to 208V single phase conversion have any attractions? Need a big transformer of course. I am not aware of anything simple. My thinking is we really need to look at the present service, 240v single phase and decide is it easier to convert the kiln or do we really want to change 240v single phase to 208v three phase in a pure resistance environment. My strong hunch is convert it to 240v single phase operation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Bill Kielb said: I am not aware of anything simple. Sorry, I don't seem to have made myself clear. I'm thinking of a power-side that consists of - 3 x 208V elements - a power relay for each - the complexities/cost of a transformer. Seems likely to be as least as simple in the boxes as Neil's 1st & 2nd options to fix the 250V safety issues, and would presumably allow per-zone control if required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, PeterH said: Sorry, I don't seem to have made myself clear. I'm thinking of a power-side that consists of - 3 x 208V elements - a power relay for each - the complexities/cost of a transformer. Not sure I follow. This kiln contains six elements, center section are series connected to form a pair or four elements total, top, bottom and two center.. Single phase to three phase conversion by transformer is very difficult . Again, lots of speculation though. Best thing I think, is to know everything about the kiln, operating voltage, intended wattage, resistance and start designing from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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