Babs Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Does any one know where I can source this discourse of Hamada's . The article I was reading said it was written in the 1930's but did not give a title to the discourse.It referred to taste being only partial viewing and feeling as seeing the article as the whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 For a minute there I thought maybe you were going Hannibal Lecter on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.art-newzealand.com/Issues1to40/books0403.htm Of himself, Hamada has said that it was after reaching the age of seventy that he began to feel mature. In talking about his approach to pot-making he has commented that techniques are difficult enough to learn: '... it took me ten years to learn them but twenty years to forget them... it is the experience - how the experience is accepted - that is important... knowing things sometimes impedes the power of the observation. .. "Good taste" is a formula, but it is not so with "feeling" . . . I often wish that people would take a step further and apply non-established, non-accepted standards and select work that has the true directness of feeling, even if it is lacking in the expected taste. .. If we reflect on our motive for making pottery we can make a start without mistakes.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Miller Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I was going to say Hamada: Potter by Leach might be your best bet to find it, but Bruce beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I would say Yanagi if it was written in the 30s. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.art-newzealand.com/Issues1to40/books0403.htm Of himself, Hamada has said that it was after reaching the age of seventy that he began to feel mature. In talking about his approach to pot-making he has commented that techniques are difficult enough to learn: '... it took me ten years to learn them but twenty years to forget them... it is the experience - how the experience is accepted - that is important... knowing things sometimes impedes the power of the observation. .. "Good taste" is a formula, but it is not so with "feeling" . . . I often wish that people would take a step further and apply non-established, non-accepted standards and select work that has the true directness of feeling, even if it is lacking in the expected taste. .. If we reflect on our motive for making pottery we can make a start without mistakes.' Mature at seventy Bciske my friend you may have to wait a little longer than that! So it is the viewer who brings taste, and the pot which gives feeling? Feel i could sit forever in the presence of some pots. Zombie in the pottery Thanks people I'll keep reading a while, too cold to pot here at mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://www.art-newzealand.com/Issues1to40/books0403.htm Of himself, Hamada has said that it was after reaching the age of seventy that he began to feel mature. In talking about his approach to pot-making he has commented that techniques are difficult enough to learn: '... it took me ten years to learn them but twenty years to forget them... it is the experience - how the experience is accepted - that is important... knowing things sometimes impedes the power of the observation. .. "Good taste" is a formula, but it is not so with "feeling" . . . I often wish that people would take a step further and apply non-established, non-accepted standards and select work that has the true directness of feeling, even if it is lacking in the expected taste. .. If we reflect on our motive for making pottery we can make a start without mistakes.' Mature at seventy Bciske my friend you may have to wait a little longer than that! So it is the viewer who brings taste, and the pot which gives feeling? Feel i could sit forever in the presence of some pots. Zombie in the pottery Thanks people I'll keep reading a while, too cold to pot here at mo. I'm told that the potter makes vessels, not tea bowls, and that it is the tea master who chooses which vessels become tea bowls. So, yes, the pot gives feeling and the user determines function. I may be a smart-ass, but I'm an old smart-ass on the downward trajectory toward maturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'm told that the potter makes vessels, not tea bowls, and that it is the tea master who chooses which vessels become tea bowls. Very true. Just becasue something cursorally looks sort of like a chawan.... does not make it suitable to be a Chawan. Much goes into it both functionally and aesthetically for an actual Chakai. best, .........................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 http://www.art-newzealand.com/Issues1to40/books0403.htm Of himself, Hamada has said that it was after reaching the age of seventy that he began to feel mature. In talking about his approach to pot-making he has commented that techniques are difficult enough to learn: '... it took me ten years to learn them but twenty years to forget them... it is the experience - how the experience is accepted - that is important... knowing things sometimes impedes the power of the observation. .. "Good taste" is a formula, but it is not so with "feeling" . . . I often wish that people would take a step further and apply non-established, non-accepted standards and select work that has the true directness of feeling, even if it is lacking in the expected taste. .. If we reflect on our motive for making pottery we can make a start without mistakes.' Mature at seventy Bciske my friend you may have to wait a little longer than that! So it is the viewer who brings taste, and the pot which gives feeling? Feel i could sit forever in the presence of some pots. Zombie in the pottery Thanks people I'll keep reading a while, too cold to pot here at mo. I'm told that the potter makes vessels, not tea bowls, and that it is the tea master who chooses which vessels become tea bowls. So, yes, the pot gives feeling and the user determines function. I may be a smart-ass, but I'm an old smart-ass on the downward trajectory toward maturity. So maturity is "taste" or a feeling of the whole? The unaccepted standard.. can it be a standard if it is unaccepted, so maybe only exists for the individual? Trajectory? A Speeding up of the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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