Brad71 Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 I've had this kiln for a few years , never used it till now. Decided to use it, giving my other kilns a break, lol, fired 2 loads through it great , worked on low,med, high and now it won't operate but on high, leaving 2 element none working. The light wouldn't even come on when turned to low or med. I took the sitter apart and cleaned the contacts. The lights come on now but elements will not heat up. Checked them, they are good. What's the chances both switches went out, kinda stumped here due to it not having relays ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 Related thread Kiln diagram on Paragon site https://eadn-wc04-7751283.nxedge.io/wp-content/uploads/A82WD.pdf Maybe each pair of elements is switched like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad71 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 Thanks, I will take a look . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad71 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 I had read the thread by Greenman from 2019 and check the sitter, cleaning the contacts caused the light to start back working on low and med, but no heat from elements at all until turned on high. I'm gonna pull the switch panel again today and see if something is loose, I moved the kiln over 6 inches and that's when it decided to act up and not function on low, med. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brad71 said: but no heat from elements at all until turned on high. While waiting for an expert... Did the move involve any change to the power supply (cord, plug, socket)? Edited September 25, 2023 by PeterH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad71 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 No sir, just raised it up about 2 inches off ground with a pallet jack and moved it over 6 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kielb Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 It’s really important to have a connected neutral, else these kilns will not operate correctly. Maybe first confirm that you have 2 - 120v circuits line to neutral and 240v line to line. Always check you have a ground for safety while you are at it. Anything that when moved six inches no longer works likely needs a thorough inspection of all connections, contacts, etc…. Jus a reminder: Careful, use appropriate safety around energized equipment. Your diagram I believe is here https://eadn-wc04-7751283.nxedge.io/wp-content/uploads/A82WD.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Brad71 said: now it won't operate but on high, leaving 2 element none working. Not quite certain what you mean here. The 4-way switch diagram suggests this behaviour: Top-Switch=OFF - no top elements lit Top-Switch=LOW - both top elements lit (at 1/4 power) Top-Switch=MED - one of top elements lit Top-Switch=HIGH - both top elements lit Bottom-Switch=OFF - no bottom elements lit Bottom-Switch=LOW - both bottom elements lit (at 1/4 power) Bottom-Switch=MED - one of bottom elements lit Bottom-Switch=HIGH - both bottom elements lit What do you get? BTW If you have lost your neutral connection I suspect that both elements will be off for OFF/LOW/MED & both elements on for HIGH. Edited September 25, 2023 by PeterH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad71 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 Yes sir, I have the 2- 120v circuits line to neutral and the 240v line to line. It worked fine on 2 firings and quit working on low and med (no lights either setting, only on high). I cleaned the sitter contacts and the light come on for all settings only producing heat on high. I'm gonna pull the switch panel off again and re check everything on that side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad71 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 For the elements, nothing on low or med, let it run for 30 minutes, still cool. Switch to high on both switches, from top i get second element firing and very bottom element firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad71 Posted September 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 Took the panel off, found a wire on the 3rd element to the switch not connected good, fixed that. Also the top element was broken where it bends in through the brick. I guess my moving was kinda rough. Going to order all new elements and see what gives, lol. PeterH, Bill Kielb, neilestrick and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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