a.janewski Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hello, I have some questions about a kiln that I bought recently. I believe that it is a Gare Kiln model 1818. It's definitely an older kiln. I had bought it as second hand but didn't get a ton of information. Note that I am brand new to pottery. I did some work a while back while taking a course but I'm wanting to try for myself. My questions are: - Is the 1818 a high fire or low fire? - What cone does it use up to? - How long are the fires? If you could give me some information that would be amazing! I have tried looking for a manual but have had no luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick White Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Gare Kilns were taken over by Evenheat. User manuals for the old Gare kilns aren't among those published on the Evenheat website, but if you call them, they are helpful and can get the old manuals out of their archives for you. As for the capabilities of the kiln, some of that should be listed on the electrical rating plate that is attached to the side of the kiln or the control case. If you post a picture of that, we can see what it looks like. dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.janewski Posted August 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 I have tried to add a photo, hopefully it will show. I did see that in the photo it states that it can't go over cone # 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 It says cone 8 max on the serial plate. A firing will probably take 6-9 hours depending on what cone you're firing to. Does this kiln just have the 4 on/off switches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.janewski Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Yeah it just has the 4 on/off switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Have you fire one of those before? They work, you just have to make sure your pieces are totally dry when you bisque fire, because the kiln will heat up pretty quickly at the bottom since the elements will be full on when you flip the switches. Start with the lid cracked a couple of inches and turn on the bottom switch. After an hour turn on the next switch. After another hour close the lid. After another hour turn on the 3rd switch. After another hour turn on the top switch. You could speed up the last two switches to 1/2 hour if you wanted to. This kiln is a good candidate for a wall mounted digital controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.janewski Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Ok cool, thanks for all of this information. I haven't tried firing it yet and haven't done a firing in a couple years. What you wrote about turning it on in stages makes sense. I had seen that on another website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkvirgilio Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Hi a.janewski I just saw your post I just received this same kiln and know nothing about pottery but going to start a class so I can use in my home! Wondering what you have learned about it and how it works for you so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosquito Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 My mother is now 94 years old and no longer using her kilns. We have this model and want to sell it along with many doll molds. Does anyone have any ideas what it might bring if I sell it and where I might offer it for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 @Mosquito If this kiln only has switches as the OP describes, any value that would be in this kiln is entirely dependant on the condition of the bricks. If there are no big cracks, especially in the lid or base, if the element channels are in good shape and there’s no glaze spills or chunks missing, you could sell this as a project kiln for maybe $50 on facebook marketplace or similar. Include any kiln furniture in that price. Advise any beginners looking for a mid fire/cone 6 kiln that this one likely won’t meet their needs, or will need to be completely gutted to do so. You can try offering the plaster moulds, but if the buyer isn’t interested, just throw those out. They loose some absorbency or become uneven after a number of uses and have no resale value. Just because you mentioned doll making: If your mom used anything like gold lustre, even a partial bottle of that has value. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to ask a pro-rated cost of a new bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 @Mosquito There's a very real chance you'll have a hard time finding someone who wants to buy the molds as a full batch. If you want to put in the effort, you could list them individually on eBay and you may find some buyers. People who are into it are often looking for specific molds. If they're commercially made molds, they should have a number on them. Otherwise, check around for local paint-you-own pottery shops that pour their own greenware and see if they're interested. If the molds are for doll parts they probably won't be, but if you have figurines and such they may. Like Callie said, the value of the kiln depends entirely on the condition of the bricks. I say put it up for $200 and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbox Arts Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 On 8/22/2021 at 9:07 PM, neilestrick said: Have you fire one of those before? They work, you just have to make sure your pieces are totally dry when you bisque fire, because the kiln will heat up pretty quickly at the bottom since the elements will be full on when you flip the switches. Start with the lid cracked a couple of inches and turn on the bottom switch. After an hour turn on the next switch. After another hour close the lid. After another hour turn on the 3rd switch. After another hour turn on the top switch. You could speed up the last two switches to 1/2 hour if you wanted to. This kiln is a good candidate for a wall mounted digital controller. I have the same Gare Model 1818 kiln mentioned in this thread. It's in great shape and I've got my house wired to be able to operate it safely in my garage. I am interested in your comment regarding it being a good candidate for a wall mounted digital controller. Can you point me to a type of controller that would be compatible? Thank you in advance for your response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 14 hours ago, Sandbox Arts said: I have the same Gare Model 1818 kiln mentioned in this thread. It's in great shape and I've got my house wired to be able to operate it safely in my garage. I am interested in your comment regarding it being a good candidate for a wall mounted digital controller. Can you point me to a type of controller that would be compatible? Thank you in advance for your response. https://www.clay-king.com/kilns/kiln_parts/kiln_controllers.html The Olympic Electro Sitter, or the Orton or Evenheat wall mount controllers would work. You just have to get the model that can handle the amperage draw of your kiln. The Electro Sitter replaces the Kiln Sitter, so it's a smaller package that mounts right on the kiln. For the wall mounts, the kiln plugs into the controller box, the controller box plugs into the wall. You turn all the kiln switches on high and the controller takes over. The Sitter is used as a safety backup. The nice thing about the wall mount is that the system runs cooler since it's further from the wall, so the relays should last longer. Any of them will likely cost much more than the kiln is worth, but it's still cheaper than buying a new digital kiln. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbox Arts Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 Thank you, @neilestrick! I'll check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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