Beate Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hi everybody! I'm new here in this board. So let me just introduce myself before I come up with my questions. In the moment I study ceramics/art in the last year. I'm from germany - I hope you will understand my English and I will find out the special ceramicwords ... I've just been starting my first tries on onglaze... we have some modern onglaze colors and some old ones in our studio - and also a water soluble medium for painting. I found many books one porcelainpainting with traditionell oil technique but no book wich describes the painting with the water soluble medium. Does anyone of you have experience with it or does know a book about it? Or would you say - professionell onglazepainting is only possible with the traditional technique? I have nothing against oil, its just - the medium is there, an the oil not - and - my local onglaze seller says that this modern onglaze color did work better with the water soluble medium. (he also sells the oil, so that is not the point ) Hope that someone can help me and I would be very glad about a book tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Do you mean: 1. painting onto already glazed and fired ware with a non-firing medium? 2. painting onto already glazed and fired ware, then firing again? 3. painting onto raw glaze and then firing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Paul Lewing's Book on China Painting may be your best source. But it all depends on what you are doing as Neil has mentioned above. I am assuming you mean to paint on a fired glazed with water base or oil base overglazes. China paints are applied onto the glazed piece and retired to a lower temperature. Look up Paul Lewing http://www.artisantilenw.org/art-lewing.html and Kurt Weiser to get an idea about china painting. http://www.bellevuearts.org/exhibitions/past/2008/kurt_weiser.html Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I've been using overglaze enamels... (china paints) .... for years in a very simple fashion (aka-e painting style). I usually use water based..... but that is a bit of a misnomer. The water is adjusted with additives like glycerine to give good brushing consistency. I too reccommend Paul's book (you'll find my work in there too ). Paul is the master of overglaze work. It is a great information packed book. best, .....................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 So maybe she means onglazing onto the unfired glazed ware. In this case the medium may well be glycerin, or poss CMC which would make the "onglazes more painterly in application. The supplier should be able to give hints on the usage. I, being non scientific in this regard, just add a quantity of glycerin or CMC to the powder and water until it feels right. Or it may be like the medium for acrylic paints which slows the drying process to allow the marrying of colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 John and Marcia thank you for recommending China Paint and Overglaze by Paul Lewing. I have had this marked in my amazon account for several months but at nearly $50 I was hesitant to buy it since I knew nothing about it. Your recommendation means a lot and I will be ordering it today. Are there any other books you like for surface decorating ceramics? Again thank you so much! Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 look at the Ceramic Artys Daily videos ..upper left on this page. you can watch clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beate Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi, thank you alot for the replies! Yes I meant paint onto fired glaze and than fire at 800 - 850 Celsius. Ok, its funny because the German word for Overglaze is - translated - onglaze... for your onglaze we say inglaze... This tread was meant to be about OVERGLAZE I will have a look for the book and also search through the videos... Did you mention this http://ceramicartsdaily.org/bookstore/new-directions-in-china-painting/ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 That is the same guy that wrote the book we are talking about. I am sure that video is also excellent.... since Paul is great.... but I have not seen it. best, ...............john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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