LIT Posted May 22, 2023 Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 Our school has two HF 105 kilns. Worked great for about 5 years and started having temp issues. Very long story short, turns out even though the power box said 240, we weren’t getting that amperage. Electricians installed a booster so now we do. Here’s the weird situation: according to witness cones, kilns aren’t reaching 04 in bisque (they get to 06 and sometimes near 05). But they reach 5 and 6 no problem in the glaze fire. Elements are good, thermacouples have been replaced, relays as well. We have offset the temp 20°, programmed holds, I do candle for a while on bisque as well. Why would the kilns struggle to reach 04 but reach a hot cone 5/6 no problem? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick White Posted May 22, 2023 Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 Is it "struggling" to get to cone 04, or does controller need calibration so that it turns itself off at the proper temperature? If the glaze firings are reaching the expected results according to witness cones, leave the overall thermocouple offset alone and set a cone offset for cone 04. Instructions for this should be in the user manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted May 22, 2023 Report Share Posted May 22, 2023 It's a calibration issue. Either do a cone offset for 04 or just program it to cone 03 instead. I believe that has the same controller as the Skutt kilns, so THIS instruction page should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIT Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Ahhhh! Thank you! When we did the offset we entered using the 9 not realizing that was a negative. The manual we were looking at didn’t explain it as clearly as these instructions you’ve provided and only showed the offset with the 9 (for example, 9020 for 20 degrees). I believe this is our problem! Our maintenance crew has all but given up. Thank you!! Edited May 23, 2023 by LIT Hulk and neilestrick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIT Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Hello again, So it appears our kiln controller is different. In the manual, it explains that the using the 9 for programming the TCOS makes it hotter. I tried it anyway with 20 instead of 9020 for a 20 degree offset and it didn't even reach ^ 06. Also, there does not appear to be a way to program an individual offset per cone, only a general TCOS. I've emailed Amaco and am awaiting confirmation on that point. Any other thoughts or ideas? Thank you, Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 hours ago, LIT said: Any other thoughts or ideas? Leave the TC offset alone and just program it to a higher cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIT Posted May 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 Will try that. Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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