ChrisC

Just an FYI update for anyone following, heard back from Paragon, they did not make the kiln but confirmed their elements will fit just the same. I made an enquiry with another company that repairs kilns and supplies elements here in Aus and they thought that the importer brought them out of England. At this stage I still have no idea where its from but have been able to confirm it draws 35amp when running.

Hi Neil, the bricks are 2.5" thick, there is no other relays, only the safety switch for the lid. I'll shoot Paragon an email. will post up anything I get back so it helps anyone else in the future. Its very close to the TNF233 but as you say theholes are punched rather than louvers in the terminal cover. Thanks David, Thats really interesting as I have another kiln that is 35amp and rated for a 40amp circuit, I'm not sure how thr rules differ in Australia though. I'll quiz my electrician. We tested amperage on that Kiln and was pulling around the 34.5amp mark when cycling on.

Thanks Neil, I've just opened it up today, I've attached the photos of how the elements layout in the bricks also the cover and the wiring terminals of the elements. The resistance measured was - Top and Bottom element 19.2ohms each and the 2 middle elements are 11.2ohms each but the 2 middle elements are wired together - a link wire from end to the next element down, I realise now the photo is a bit hard to see because of the stainless reflection. I was thinking that this would make it - 240/19.2=12.5A (x2- top and bottom) + 240/(11.2+11.2(middle)) = 10.7A = total amperage = 35.7amp ? So 40amp cicuit would be about correct. The higher resistance elements and slightly lower amperage would line up with what the previous owner said about it being lowfire ? If I've got that right The relays are also 25AMP and not 30AMP like in the Paragon drawings , once again uploaded a dud photo there but 3 relays I've got an electrician coming in the next few days to install a 40amp circuit for another kiln so I'll get him to check it out while here Cheers

Thanks very much Peter, thats what I was getting and couldnt reconcile the extra few amps, Cheers !

Thanks Peter, That is really handy. I'm in Australia and my supply is 240v - the one thing when looking at the drawings is when using V/R for Amps I dont get 40amps as per their drawing - Is there an example of how to calculate that ? Looking at the 2 elements in the attached drawing these would be in series ? so still measured at 17.2ohms ? (when 8.6ohms each ). Appreciate any knowledge you can pass on, thanks again Wtnf233.pdf

Fantastic thanks so much for your feedback, I have my electrician coming around this week to do some other work so will get him to double check the calcs, thanks again.

Thanks very much, I'll take the cover off and measure the resistance of the elements later this week - as per my reply to Davidh - someone posted a Paragon for sale today which is near identical apart from the controller / colour of cover panel and lid hinge. I'll keep sluthing and see how the ohms measure - the one listed for sale was 40amp. Cheers

Thankyou, yes that is the controller model. No there is absolutely nothing on the name plate - thats what has made this an impossible task. By pure chance someone listed an older Paragon kiln today for sale, whilst the control box isnt blue everything else looks to be the same apart from the lid support on top , so possibly the importer just put their own name on my one - the warning wording is also extremely similar. they list theirs as 40amp. Thanks very much I think you may be on to something. I'll continue my investiagtions into the Paragon make. Cheers

Thankyou for the feedback, this was a photo from the previous owner, its not kept like that now but good to know thankyou !

Hello, Firstly wasnt sure where the right spot was to ask this one. I could really use some assistance if anyone can identify a kiln by images. The name plate was never stamped with amperage / phase or anything. I have bought it second hand the previous owner said it was only used for earthen ware it had been wired into the property with a 63amp breaker. none of the companies exist now - on the name plate or where they purchased from. it has Jacks ceramic imports on the plate and made in australia by JCI, however nothing comes up in seaches, hoping someone may recognise the make. Would like to be able to identify accurate range on temp and also amperage. Depth is 560mm x 560mm wide internal. Thankyou