Biglou13 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 i'll have access to 10, gas reduction firing, Soon.... the clays ive been making are not tested in gas. so im looking for a white clay other than helio$, that plays well with celadons. can you also suggest some other clays thay play well with shino's, I like the look of iron bearing clays under a "whitish"/ (no iron) shino. i have access to any laguna clay (all of them), highwater and axner...... the laguna #900 /wc628 is already on my list im prolly going to try a box of laguna b-mix woodfire... and save some pieces for wood other than that I really love, historical asian glazes....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Lou -- Celadons get their color from iron oxide in reduction. So, a porcelain like Helios -- which has a low iron content in the clay body -- gives better Celadon results. You could consider a porcelaineous stoneware -- like Highwater's Loafer's Glory -- or a porcelain slip application over a stoneware. But stoneware clay bodies have more iron in them, so that iron competes with the small amount of iron in your Celadon recipe. Sometimes the look we want has a price you gotta pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Personally... I hate the 900. Both handling and also the fired qualities. Nondescript look and generally so-so handling. best, ................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabama Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 My vote is for Helios. We had good results with it in the colleges Baileys gas fired cone 10 reduction kiln. In reduction the interior takes on a faintly light blue...and I think in oxidation just white. Helios can be found in Florida and North Carolina. Shipping to anywhere, USA. Cost is no problem, its only money!!! Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick White Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 My experience with reduction firing is there is no such thing as a white stoneware. Just ain't gonna happen. Porcelain, yes, but not stoneware. White stoneware clay bodies all contain some iron contamination. Not enough to matter in oxidation, but reduction causes the iron to reduce to black, which turns the overall body murky gray. Areas that are covered with any transparent glaze will remain gray underneath the glaze, but exposed areas (e.g., the foot) may return to an off-white as that area re-oxidizes at the end of the firing. Porcelains have much less iron contamination and so remain white during reduction, which will give a nice celadon result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Highwater Phoenix is my all time favorite throwing stoneware body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janicehill225 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Helios is beautiful in a cone 10 reduction firing. But if you like throwing fancy shapes, it might not work well on the wheel. I found it to be highly thixatropic (sorry for spelling). The more the molecules move, the more liquidy it gets. I like manipulating my clay, so I flopped a lot of pieces and stopped using Helios. But if you throw basic shapes that rely on surface decoration, then bob's your uncle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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