Need A Hand With Dipping Glaze Recipe

[Bioman]

I have packages of Mason Stain and I am looking for a base glaze recipe to add them to.  I am new to this so this may or may not be possible; but can the base glaze be opaque or does it need to be clear to allow adding stains?

 

Does anyone have such a base recipe they could share?  I would prefer one with minimal texture as it is for foodware.

 

Thanks in advance for the assist

[Joseph Fireborn]

It can be either clear or opaque. A lot of the stains might make a clear glossy surface sort of opaque anyways depending on the % of stain used. I am not sure if this is the right terms or not, but sometimes the clear superglossy surface can change when you start getting near the 10% mark in stains, at least my results have found this to happen. I think the sweet spot for me using the 20x5 recipe has been around 5-6% of a stain.

 

A good one to start with is the 20x5 recipe. https://digitalfire.com/4sight/education/g1214m_cone_5-7_20x5_glossy_base_glaze_114.html

 

I have used this with good success with 3-4 different stains.

 

I usually made like 5 cups of mix, then added increments of 2% all the way up to 10% so you can see what happens with the surface and the color as it increases in 2%. 

 

You can take any of your favorite glossy recipes and just remove the color agents and then add stain and see what happens.

 

Say if your using a white glaze that you have great results with, remove the tin or zircopax and replace it with stain and you should get a relatively decent result. It will depend on the stain and if it has any ingredients that the stain doesn't like in the recipe though. 

[Bioman]

It can be either clear or opaque. A lot of the stains might make a clear glossy surface sort of opaque anyways depending on the % of stain used. I am not sure if this is the right terms or not, but sometimes the clear superglossy surface can change when you start getting near the 10% mark in stains, at least my results have found this to happen. I think the sweet spot for me using the 20x5 recipe has been around 5-6% of a stain.

 

A good one to start with is the 20x5 recipe. https://digitalfire.com/4sight/education/g1214m_cone_5-7_20x5_glossy_base_glaze_114.html

 

I have used this with good success with 3-4 different stains.

 

I usually made like 5 cups of mix, then added increments of 2% all the way up to 10% so you can see what happens with the surface and the color as it increases in 2%. 

 

You can take any of your favorite glossy recipes and just remove the color agents and then add stain and see what happens.

 

Say if your using a white glaze that you have great results with, remove the tin or zircopax and replace it with stain and you should get a relatively decent result. It will depend on the stain and if it has any ingredients that the stain doesn't like in the recipe though. 

 

Thanks Joseph, great start.

One question.  I don't have Wollansonite.  Can i substitute Calcium Carbonate?  If so would I need to adjust the silica ratio?

[Bioman]

Please disregard last reply, I just found a package of Wollastonite among my clutter.

[Biglou13]

i have had great success with vc-71 and  crimson mason stains.... early test i think this was 7% with light application on cone 6 porcelain ish body

[Min]

Mason has a list of what is in all their stains here http://www.masoncolor.com/ceramic_RefGuide.asp, so if you have a look at that for which stains you are testing then go to this reference page http://www.masoncolor.com/reference_notes.html you can see which stains don't like zinc etc.

[Bioman]

Thanks folks.  I made a batch of the G1214M-CONE 6 CLEAR BASE GLAZE from Joseph F. link.  Should see in a week how it worked with the Mason stains I had on hand.