elcimen Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Good morning all My name is Maria, I live in Portugal. I am a beginner in ceramic and need everyone's help. I need to buy my stuff to work. I want to buy in stores potter and the products already prepared. Who can help me telling me the issues I write. For single firing: 1 - What kind of colorless transparent glass that can be applied to the raw piece that were decorated with glazes? 2 - Glass and enamel is the same thing? To double-fired: 1 - Can I paint with engobe or underglaze point in the piece of leather, let it dry and take the first cooking? 2 - After biscoitada which the glass should I be covering and lead again to the furnace? Are there any specific glass or can I use the glaze? I want to buy all the products already prepared, for this reason I need to know what I should buy. Engobes need to know what I can buy to apply to raw clay, engobe need to know should I buy to apply the piece biscoitada. Are they the same? And glazes? What should I buy? And the glaze which I buy for single-fired and double-fired? I have a preference for transparent glaze, because I want to decorate the piece and then want her to be brilliant. If someone send to my email as you want more information I'll be happy. elcimen@gmail.com I will be very happy if someone help me. I really need to buy my stuff. I thank those who help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelyne Schoenmann Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Good day to you elcimen and welcome! I understand you are totally and completely new to clay and ceramics? If yes, I would strongly recommend to join a class in a ceramics studio to learn the basics there. There is no sense in telling you to buy this or that, when we don't know whether you like to handbuild, to throw, to slip cast; to work with low fire clay or with stoneware or porcelain etc. Are there studios in your vicinity where you can learn the basics? I hope so, because I feel that you want to begin the adventure of potting. Keep us informed of your progress. Evelyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hello Maria and welcome! The questions you are asking have very many answers so it is difficult to give ones that would be right for you. There are so many choices! You can paint on underglazes at almost any time and fire them. If you are going to put a clear glaze over the designs, you should probably fire them before you apply a glaze. Use zinc free clear glazes. Engobes can be used on leather hard surfaces, not sure how they do on bisque. Sorry, cannot help with single firing questions. At the top of this page you will find a link to Ceramic Arts Daily. There you will find hundreds of lessons and advice to help you narrow down your search and find out exactly what you want. There is so much good information there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcimen Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Good day to you elcimen and welcome! I understand you are totally and completely new to clay and ceramics? If yes, I would strongly recommend to join a class in a ceramics studio to learn the basics there. There is no sense in telling you to buy this or that, when we don't know whether you like to handbuild, to throw, to slip cast; to work with low fire clay or with stoneware or porcelain etc. Are there studios in your vicinity where you can learn the basics? I hope so, because I feel that you want to begin the adventure of potting. Keep us informed of your progress. Evelyne Hi Evelyne For me is very difficult because where I live has no studio. I am self taught and I'm learning the internet. Ceramicartsdaily'm already a member - Pottery Making Illustrated. I have an oven that reaches temperatures of 1320 º C I painted tiles. Pinto and take the glaze kiln to 1000 ° C Wanted to expand my knowledge and bought: - A potter's wheel Shimpo RK3E (I do medium and small pieces) - Ready-made clays (white and red) - Duncan Concepts - Underglaze for bisque - Duncan - Pure Brilliance - Clear Glaze Brush-On - Accessories for cutting, shaping etc. - Engobe - Botz - Cone 09-04 I wonder what types of: glass, enamel and engobes should I buy so I can apply at work in two ways: - Decorative pieces on raw clay - Decorative pieces on clay bisque I'll be happy if you help me in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcimen Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hello Maria and welcome! The questions you are asking have very many answers so it is difficult to give ones that would be right for you. There are so many choices! You can paint on underglazes at almost any time and fire them. If you are going to put a clear glaze over the designs, you should probably fire them before you apply a glaze. Use zinc free clear glazes. Engobes can be used on leather hard surfaces, not sure how they do on bisque. Sorry, cannot help with single firing questions. At the top of this page you will find a link to Ceramic Arts Daily. There you will find hundreds of lessons and advice to help you narrow down your search and find out exactly what you want. There is so much good information there. Hi Chris For me is very difficult because where I live has no studio. I am self taught and I'm learning the internet. Ceramicartsdaily'm already a member - Pottery Making Illustrated. I have an oven that reaches temperatures of 1320 º C I painted tiles. Pinto and take the glaze kiln to 1000 ° C Wanted to expand my knowledge and bought: - A potter's wheel Shimpo RK3E (I do medium and small pieces) - Ready-made clays (white and red) - Duncan Concepts - Underglaze for bisque - Duncan - Pure Brilliance - Clear Glaze Brush-On - Accessories for cutting, shaping etc. - Engobe - Botz - Cone 09-04 I wonder what types of: glass, enamel and engobes should I buy so I can apply at work in two ways: - Decorative pieces on raw clay - Decorative pieces on clay bisque I'll be happy if you help me in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Can you post a picture that shows the kind of decoration you are trying to do? It would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcimen Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Can you post a picture that shows the kind of decoration you are trying to do? It would help. Hi I would make these decorations. I'll be glad if you help me http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/dfq8.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/ltso.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/e5ob.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/i27c.jpg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelyne Schoenmann Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Hello Maria, I just sent you an answer to your privat message. Unfortunately I can't hep you with the paintings because I never done painting on ceramics (I mostly do alternative firings, without glaze and painting), but I recommended some books/DVD you can order or download from the Ceramic Arts Daily page (bookstore). I included the links to the books/DVD in my p.m. to you. Hope that helps. Don'r rush ahead please, study a bit more before trying out every technique there is in the ceramics world. And once again: basics basics basics. All the best! Evelyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutellaisdivine Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Hi Maria, To make these kinds of ceramics you would need underglazes or oxides. The best ones on the market are Amaco Velvet underglazes but these are quite expensive because they give a very smooth finish and there are cheaper ones on the market that may show more brush strokes in the colour. I would start off with the cheaper ones because I think on the Portuguese style ceramics like you've shown the colour isn't necessarily smooth. Then you would need some transparent glaze to glaze over the body. The oxides you use the same way you would use underglaze. They come in powder form and you need to mix them with water to paint them on. You can apply the underglaze/oxide (best with a synthetic brush) to unfired, bisqued or glazed vase. I would avoid applying to unfired because it's messy and unnecessary. You can also glaze fire the body and then paint on the body with overgrazes. If you mean the body to be white then apply white tin glaze. There is a method called Majollica which is applying decorations like in your photos straight on unfired white tin glaze. Look into Majollica. You can use white earthenware clay for this and bisque fire at 1140C and glaze fire at 1040-1060C Hope this helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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