nancirose Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 i have never used mason stains.. been told that i can mix mason stain into clear glaze and fire @ cone 06 ??? can mason stains be mixed with water and applied to bisque paper clay , re fire and then apply cone 06 glaze and refire? thanks for any help, nanci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancirose Posted May 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 i have never used mason stains.. been told that i can mix mason stain into clear glaze and fire @ cone 06 ??? can mason stains be mixed with water and applied to bisque paper clay , re fire and then apply cone 06 glaze and refire? thanks for any help, nanci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 The question I have is why are you choosing mason stains for this job rather than an underglaze? Underglazes can be applied to greenware or to bisque ware, then you fire, glaze and refire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancirose Posted May 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 I am requesting information on application and firing of mason stains to bisque paper clay is because I did not want to mix mason stain into unfired clay or slip. I am unable to find information on line regarding firing at 06 cone mixed with clear glaze. I plan to use on an outdoor sculture to create unique shades/ colors not available in underglazes. Different web sites have varying information regarding mixing mason stains with clear glazes. Some state that only non- talc glazes can be used some disagree. Below is a quote from a website selling mason stains. " Mason is one of the leading stain manufacturers in the United States. We carry the complete Mason color line. They give color to glazes, slips and clay bodies. Most Mason stains can be used at any temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 I just started using Mason Stains. When you mix them with glaze they come out transparent. I mixed my stain with nepheline syenite (equal parts) and water to a thin consistancy and painted over clear glaze and fired to cone ^6. Sharon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Here are some pictures of some things I done with mason Stains. The Sunflower was a yellow glaze with Lobster stain over top of it. The pansy was a white glaze with Lavender and purple stains over top. The cup is Yellow Glaze on the outside and White on the inside. Eric's Hot Dog plate is unfired, (clear glaze, with Black, lobster and Fawn over top.) Sharon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 I fired my pieces, cone 6, and here are the newest pictures plus pictures of my test tiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 i have never used mason stains.. been told that i can mix mason stain into clear glaze and fire @ cone 06 ??? can mason stains be mixed with water and applied to bisque paper clay , re fire and then apply cone 06 glaze and refire? thanks for any help, nanci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Yes, you can use a base 50% EPK and 50% 3110 Frit. Then add whatever percentage of mason stain you need for intensity. Some stains are stronger than others, so test. I add a few grains of epsom salts to 50 gram mixes to help keep the stain from settling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I am requesting information on application and firing of mason stains to bisque paper clay is because I did not want to mix mason stain into unfired clay or slip. I am unable to find information on line regarding firing at 06 cone mixed with clear glaze. I plan to use on an outdoor sculture to create unique shades/ colors not available in underglazes. Different web sites have varying information regarding mixing mason stains with clear glazes. Some state that only non- talc glazes can be used some disagree. Below is a quote from a website selling mason stains. " Mason is one of the leading stain manufacturers in the United States. We carry the complete Mason color line. They give color to glazes, slips and clay bodies. Most Mason stains can be used at any temperature. You usually will find a list of codes before or after the entire list of Mason stains. It is a reference chart describing the Max. temperatures, limits of which types of fluxes will work with particular stains, and which will not. For example a certain pink may not work with calcium in the glaze or an orange may not like zinc or may need zinc in the glaze. Read these carefully before purchasing stains. Also it states whether they can be used in a clay body or a glaze. Mason stains are a fritted material.They need a carrier to adhere to a surface such as an engobe base , or a glaze or a clay body. They are specific combinations to achieve colors and will react positively or negatively when mixed with specific chemicals. Follow the manufacturer's charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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