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    Cameo reacted to neilestrick in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    Yeah that's the wrong wiring diagram. Call them and ask to speak with a kiln tech and have him/her tell you which terminals which wires go to on the switches.
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    Cameo reacted to Bill Kielb in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    I don’t see a low medium high switch in this diagram actually so if it has three or four way switches And you now have a controller I would scrap them and make this fully automated and let the controller cycle the elements on.  0.5 amp fuse should protect everything downstream of it. Before I sketch anything are you automating this thing and getting rid of the sitter and  low medium high switches?
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    Cameo reacted to neilestrick in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    Call Seattle Pottery Supply and ask them for a wiring diagram, or at least have them tell you what goes where, so you get the correct wires on the correct terminals. It does matter which goes where because you won't get the proper low-med-high function of they're wired wrong.
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    Cameo reacted to Mark C. in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    Call Seattle Pottery Supply -yes they can help you with this-call them
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    Cameo reacted to Mark C. in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    The tape is not a good idea as Bill said it will burn off unless its high heat and it looks pretty standard to me.
    If you took the wires off-did you mark them where they would go back ? Just get a wiring diagram online from manufacture and post it here.
    I'm feeling like Neils suggestion may be right the middle has two together . You need to be sure before energizing it.
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    Cameo reacted to neilestrick in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    Double check your wiring diagram to make sure your wires are on the correct tabs. It looks like the two middle tabs are jumpered together? So maybe you shouldn't have wires on both of them?
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    Cameo reacted to Bill Kielb in Wiring in control boxes, 2 questions   
    Unless the black tape is high temp stuff it’s generally not necessary and actually will start to melt depending on what type a connection this is. If it’s an element connection then generally no regular tape allowed. . As long as these bare connections are clear all around and not touching other adjacent wiring  they should be fine..
    The  open tab on the relay is likely just an unused contact. This is actually quite common in kilns and unless you feel a wire has fallen off, it should be fine.  Again there is no need to cover it as long as it is clear of other wires, etc.... and not in danger of touching something adjacent to it.
    What is interesting is the item above the relay, my guess is it’s an indicator light so this area in the picture is likely not exposed to a bunch of heat.
    post the circuit diagram if ya got one. That would add some more clarity to this.
    Everything In the pictures  looks to be in good order BTW.
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    Cameo got a reaction from Bill Kielb in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    All of this has been so SO helpful. You guys are seriously invaluable.
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    Cameo reacted to neilestrick in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    The wiring to the kiln only needs 3 wires total- two hots and a ground. Wire up the outlet so the prongs match- the green will be the ground, the black and white are the hots.
    As for the wire, did you run the flexible plastic conduit through the ceiling all the way from the breaker box to the kiln? If you haven't already, I would check if that meets code, or if they require a metal conduit. Around here I don't think that would be allowed. @Bill Kielb do you have some insight on that? Also, since you're running this out to the garage, it would be wise to put in a fused disconnect box near the kiln, so you don't have to run into the house to the breaker box to shut it down in an emergency.
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    Cameo reacted to neilestrick in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    @Cameo The green in the power cord is a ground. With two hots you don't need a separate neutral as a return path. Because the flow of electricity cycles back and forth, both hots also function as a return path. Some small kilns need 4 wires, because they separate the two hots into two separate 120 volt circuits, which then needs a neutral return path.
    So you just have the 4 wire cable running through the ceiling? Again, I would check with codes as to whether or not that's allowed. Not all cables are approved for in-wall use, and I wouldn't necessarily trust the guy at Home Depot. Your electrician would know for sure. Yes, you can use the insulated white as the ground.
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    Cameo reacted to liambesaw in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    When I wired my kiln, flexible conduit runs were limited to 6 feet by code.  
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    Cameo reacted to neilestrick in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    Just want to make sure you're doing it safely and someone who knows the codes in your area has double checked it.
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    Cameo reacted to Mark C. in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    I have a couple of suggestions-since the white wire is a hot I always tape a black piece of electrical tape on both ends of the white wire (near the breaker and the plug) to alert anyone later that this wire is a hot not a nutral-always a good practice .
    The other is every area has different codes-here in our county your #6 Rome x is alllowed in a wall or enclosed void as long as it cannot get smashed (like above the attic beams)
    and stapled  near the ends or made securely-say with Romex clamps.
    Outside the wall it needs to be in metal conduit or plastic.that can run to a box with asurface mount plug for example . The kiln wire (from kiln to plug) with plug can be what they supply and does not need metal conduit .
    Since we do not know here you are or what the codes are you need to check.
    On that 4th red wire leave it taped off and long tucked back into boxes in case you ever get a kiln needing 110 for computer or other functions in the future )no need to cut it short.Just proctect it from getting energized with tape and tuck it back in box 1st.
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    Cameo reacted to Bill Kielb in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    your plug above 
    Convention in the US would be Black = X, Red = Y,  your single phase 240v definition calls for Green or Bare = W
    With respect to running the wire or branch circuit if you will - depending upon location in the US - it could be metallic conduit, non metallic conduit, armored cable or non metallic  cable (roamex). All have rules for running and mounting. Drilling though each floor joist is also generally not great and many codes dictate where a hole is placed and how many holes. Running cord through flexible metal conduit is never allowed anywhere that I am aware of, especially as a branch circuit. Flexible (cord or metal and non metal type) terminations are almost always limited to no greater than six feet.
    reading through all these, I agree have an electrician verify. If your electrician however runs cord through holes cut in your floor joists then I would seek a second opinion. That is not allowed anywhere I can think of.  Keep in mind, round cord is very different than non metallic cable (Roamex or range cable) though. It’s hard to tell from your pictures but it looks like black round cord has been run.
    Technically you need 2 hots and a ground (not a neutral) so Black (L1, phase A), Red  (L2, phase B ) and ground. WireNut the white and tape it back out of the way.
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    Cameo reacted to Mark C. in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    Bill is spot on with the red lead -but thats why I said black tape the white if you already are using it-thats also an acceptable deal with most inspectors .WHITE is usually neutral in most cases -red and blacks are hot.That why the white wire is taped black at ends.
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    Cameo got a reaction from liambesaw in Help with installing kiln outlet   
    @liambesaw it's only 6 feet of conduit. The rest of it is fed through the beams of my basement.
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    Cameo got a reaction from Mark C. in Replacing a 3 prong cord with a 4 prong   
    Hey guys I'm back. Just wanted to share the sticker that yall guided me to find. It's 48 amps so I'm having a 60 amp breaker installed. Thanks again for your help everyone!

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    Cameo got a reaction from neilestrick in Replacing a 3 prong cord with a 4 prong   
    Hey guys I'm back. Just wanted to share the sticker that yall guided me to find. It's 48 amps so I'm having a 60 amp breaker installed. Thanks again for your help everyone!

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    Cameo got a reaction from Hulk in Replacing a 3 prong cord with a 4 prong   
    Hey guys I'm back. Just wanted to share the sticker that yall guided me to find. It's 48 amps so I'm having a 60 amp breaker installed. Thanks again for your help everyone!

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    Cameo got a reaction from Rae Reich in Robert Brent Corp Model A 1/3 HP   
    I ended up buying it and his kiln for $450. I'm a bigger woman and could easily fit inside the kiln.  The brick is almost perfect condition and the coils don't have any bulging or anything. I'm feeling pretty good about it!
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    Cameo got a reaction from Rae Reich in Robert Brent Corp Model A 1/3 HP   
    Thank you Mark! I always find your posts and replies super helpful but this is my first time posting. You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you!
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    Cameo got a reaction from blackthorn in Robert Brent Corp Model A 1/3 HP   
    I ended up buying it and his kiln for $450. I'm a bigger woman and could easily fit inside the kiln.  The brick is almost perfect condition and the coils don't have any bulging or anything. I'm feeling pretty good about it!
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