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  1. Okay, thank you very much for this response. One last question. Will this setup still work for a much larger Skutt kiln(we may upgrade in the next year or so)? Thank you.
  2. Okay, thank you for these replies. Does the wiring need to be copper? I am asking all of these questions because a kiln technician once told me that the kiln needed to be within a few feet of a subpanel or main panel and have copper wire. The electrician who came out did not really know about kilns and so I would like to be as informed as possible when I talk with him.
  3. Thank you for these responses. We will definitely make sure that there is a disconnect within a few feet of the kiln. My main question is, will we have problems if we have the electrician run 50 feet of wire to a plug versus installing a sub-panel? Is this too far from the electrical panel? Sorry, my understanding of electrical wiring is limited.
  4. Hi, We have a Paragon TNF kiln. Moved into a new house and the breaker box is a solid 50 feet from where the kiln needs to sit. The house has 200 amps service. Is it possible to have an electrician run copper wire for the 50 feet and just install a plug for the kiln or will this set-up require a sub-panel installation? We had an electrician come out and they recommended just doing a plug but I have been told in the past that the kiln plug should be within a few feet of the breaker box. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
  5. Hi, I have a Paragon TNF-823 Kiln with a Sentry 2.0 Controller. The kiln mechanic is instructing me to purchase a 'wiring harness' for the controller which he will then install. He describes what I need as "all of the wiring inside the controller". When I call distributors they do not seem clear that this is what they can sell me. Can anyone direct me in the right direction of where I can purchase this? Thanks!
  6. Hi, I have a Paragon TNF823. I changed out the elements and relays a few months back and have done less than a dozen firings since then. The wiring to the kiln is all correct and above specs. I recently completed a successful cone 6 firing with the kiln temperature reaching 2240. But now for two Cone 6 firings in a row the FTL(Firing Too Long) code has displayed and the kiln temperature stopped climbing in the 1730 to 1750 range. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations? Thank you.
  7. Thank you everyone for all of the help. So, during the test fire the kiln report up to 1534 and then the FTL code came on and stalled out the heating process. I will now start checking the relays, thermocouplers and elements(although the repair tech supposedly already did this). To provide more information. I am running the kiln from a subpanel in my garage. The garage subpanel is fed with buried 4 gauge aluminum. The kiln circuit breaker is 40 amp. The wiring to the kiln receptacle is 6 gauge aluminum. The receptacle is 50 amp. The receptacle is less than 4 feet from the subpanel. I will use a multimeter to see what kind of juice I am actually receiving. Thanks.l
  8. Neilestrick, thank you for this very helpful response. I talked to my friend and I guess the repair person already checked the elements and relays and thermocouplers and they are good. I just changed out the circuit breaker to 40 amps and the wiring is 6 guage, so that is good. I just started up another test fire; it is not a custom program just a slow test fire. I will update when I know more. Thanks!
  9. Thank you. I didn't realize Sentry was the type of controller. Yes, the wiring is sufficient for 40 amps or more(the wire is 6 gauge aluminum). Thanks.
  10. Hi, I am helping a ceramicist friend who recently bought a used Paragon Sentry 2.0 kiln. I am by no means an electrician or kiln repair person and so I have some questions. We have done 2 test fires so far and both times the kiln temperature rose steadily and quickly until the FTH code appeared and the temperature stopped climbing and quickly stalled out. A kiln repair person came out and said that the elements are in good order and that it may be an issue of amperage from the panel. We are running the kiln off my garage sub-panel. The kiln is rated at 30 amps and the double breaker feeding the kiln from the sub-panel is also 30 amps. And the breaker feeding the sub-panel from the house is also 30 amps. I have recently learned that code recommends that the circuit breakers be 125% of the required kiln amperage; so in this case the circuit breakers should be at least 37.5. Tomorrow I am going to replace the circuit breakers with 40 or 50 amp breakers. However, would this issue of amperage have caused the FTH code and the stalling out of the heating of the kiln? If it was an issue of amps wouldn't the circuit have simply tripped? What else am I not thinking of/don't know? Thanks!
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