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is there a way to add a tare beam to a triple beam balance without one?   Add implied this item had tare, but after purchase, it does not .  It has the knurled knob to balance out the empty scale, but no way to zero out any container used.  Any good home made ideas?  Thanks,  I should have shopped longer. 

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If your scale has the little knobs on the end of the beam to hang weights (to increase the scale's capacity) you can tare for specific containers by hanging loops of wire solder on one of the knobs until the scale zeros with the container in place.

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If you look in the above picture, you will see two knobs, one on each end of the beam by his little finger.

If you order a scoop for you scale, it will come with a weight to counter balance the weight of the scoop.What rayaldridge is talking about is highing bits of wire on these knobs to counter balance the weight of whatever container you are using on the scale-like an ice cream pail.

TJR.

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Another solution may be to take the balance bar off of the scale, carefully make a notch on the long black piece. Place back on the scale, then place your bucket on the scale. Tie a piece of fishing line in a loop over the notch hanging somewhat below, but close. Use crimp-able fishing weights to counter the weight of the container. Then shorten up the fishing line so it will not hit the balance base. The notch in the bar is to keep the weight line in place on each use. Does this make sense to you?

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You should be able to hang weights on one of the knobs. Before you do that you have to get the scale to balance at zero with whatever container you are using for your glaze materials.

TJR.

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Next time get the tare weight-Now that you have this scale you can add a small weight as noted above to zero your conatiner.I would hang ot out of the way of the counter wieghts-maybe a small hook of wire with weight at end of bar (the black bar going from each measurment  scale.

The important part is that it always stays in the same spot.

Mark

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Yes, Mark, buy a scale with a tare beam.  I thought this scale came with the tare, the add implied that.  I knew I wanted that feature. I have been unsuccessful with an e-bay return.

TJR, that is exactly what I am struggling with, getting the scale to balance at zero with the container I want to use.

  Mark, I took Pres's advice and added lead fishing  weights to the right end of the black beam, strung them together and found a groove in the bar to hang them from.  It balances , sort of awkward, and not what I wanted, but will work.

Thanks for the advice.

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I write the weight of the container on the container in marker.

For common measurements, like a batch plaster, I have the tear weight totaled written in marker.

No extra dangles needed.

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If the seller won't accept the return, file a complaint with PayPal. They have a category specifically for 'Item Not as Described'.

If the seller won't accept the return, file a complaint with PayPal. They have a category specifically for 'Item Not as Described'.

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Back where I came from and still do, no danglies, I just record the weight of the container, set the scale to levrl and that is my starting weight, Eg 70 gms is there already and everything goes from there!  

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I think it's entirely practical to use the same container (and therefore the same home-made tare weight) for most glaze making.  You can use tare weights to increase the scale's capacity, but only to a certain point, and a plastic bucket will hold enough of almost all materials, up to the capacity of the scale.

 

All that said, these days I use a good digital kitchen scale for making up large quantities of glaze.  It's self-taring, and has an error well within acceptable limits.  So far it's worked very well, and the glazes perform well.  I always check it with a known weight before use, in case something has gone wrong with the innards.  I use this scale constantly, mostly to weigh out clay.

 

I use the triple beam for tests and small additions, like colorants.

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I only use my triple beam now for small test batches now after 35 years of weekly use-my electronic scale from amazon is what get used now every week-its got so much more capacity (5000 grams) and  will tare any size container and is so much quicker to use. I will never go back unless its small accurate wieghts I need.

Mark

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I have two of them an 5000 gram max Ohaus

and a 8000 gram max my weight from amazon

the amazon one was $34 -they make that is 7000 max for less as well-these all work very well.

http://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Scale-Bakers-KD8000-Weight/dp/B001NE0FU2/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1429890794&sr=1-1&keywords=my+weigh+scale

 

These digital scales are so much faster they have saved me lots of time.

This one also look good-

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009EUPMFK/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A37RGE1MLU3I6K

this one looks like my Ohaus

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004164SRA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Mark

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