Tenyoh Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I am contemplating where to set an old electric kiln (Dawson Model LT-3K, exterior dimension 30"H x 25" W) that I'm going to get this Sunday. I initially planned to set it in my porch (the floor is concrete), enclosed the area, and pull a 240-volt electric wire there. However, l just learned that I would need a building permit to enclose a part of the porch. I would need to hire a licensed contractor to obtain the permit. I have already contacted a licensed electrician to do the wiring, but if possible, I do not want to hire a licensed contractor. What will be the best solution? I may have to set the kiln in the porch without an enclosure. Could you suggest how I could protect the kiln from possible damage due to hash weather? (I live in South Dakota.) Thank you in advance. Yoko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 In most parts of the country an owner can pull his/her own building and electrical permits and do the work themselves as long as its to code. As an alternative to enclosing the porch an owner can almost always, without a permit, build non-dwelling small building without a permit as well. In cities this is often 120-200 feet and in rural areas it may go up to 400 feet. My area is 400 feet. Just did both and no one had an issue with it. You could also order a small shed from home depot/Lowes type place and use that if your not up to building one yourself. The electrician will pull the permit for his part if he does the wiring. here's a great link for easy plans for small/large out buildings: http://www.just-sheds.com/ of course you could just toss a blue tarp over it when not in use but what fun is that. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenyoh Posted October 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Thank you, Stephen. When I called the city office, the man who answered my call was adamant that I had to hire not a friend but a licensed contractor. I did look into an option of putting the kiln in a detached shed I have. As the ground between the house and the shed is covered in concrete, an electrician had to pull an overhead wire. As the shed has no electricity, I may need to pull more than 50-amp electricity to it, so that I can turn on a light there. (The kiln requires 50 amp.) The electrician I contacted is going to give me the estimate. Otherwise I'm thinking of setting the kiln in the porch and building a box with wheels to cover it. I can pull the box out when I want to use the kiln. I will have to change the current fuse box to a circuit breaker in order to connect the kiln to it. You know how expensive that can be. I want to minimize additional expenses, but to come up with a solution to protect the kiln. Is covering it with a tarp good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 ( I have already contacted a licensed electrician to do the wiring,) Have the licensed electrician do the wiring set the kiln and later just do a partial inclosed area on porch If you want you can get your own permit to do this is you must but a partial enclosure most likley needs no permit. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenyoh Posted October 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 A partial enclosure seems a good idea. I was going to install old storm windows and an old hollow door in the porch, but I can eliminate the door. Thank you, Mark. I don't know anything about building codes. I wished the city worker I talked to could have explained to me better. I googled the definition of "partially enclosed" buildings. It was confusing to me, but as long as the opening is more than 10% of the porch wall, it seems fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Yeah you cannot pull an owner permit for building or electrical and let anyone else do the work. Marks idea does sounds much better than a tarp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Coyle Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 I had a old Kress kiln I kept outside and all I ever did was wrap it with tarps and attach bungees around it. The only problem I had was making sure it was wrapped tight around the bottom to keep the mice out. I used it that way for ten years,without a problem, until I moved. P.S You must live in some uptight community is it is not enough to allow a home owner to build to code... sounds like the contractors there have purchased the local politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenyoh Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thank you, Stephen and Bob. Bob, I have never thought rodents could be a problem for a kiln. That means even if I make a partial enclosure, I may have to cover the kiln with a box or something. Does rain or snow weaken fire bricks if it gets in a kiln? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mug Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 If you buy a new high quality tarp every year you should be OK. It is pretty hard to keep a tarp from leaking for any length of time. Dawson Model LT-3K is the kiln sitter, your kiln is probably made by someone else. With the dimensions you have given, you may be able to get a plastic 55 gallon drum without a lid that would fit right over the kiln with a little modification. If your kiln gets wet, dry it before you fire the kiln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-bus Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 How about "temporary" walls? Probably no permit required for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenyoh Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thank you, Mug and g-bus. I got the kiln today. It is sitting on my porch with a tarp around it. When my friend comes tomorrow, we are going to discuss options on how to protect it, including "temporary" walls, a plastic drum, etc. I have two more questions now. A potter friend suggested I put fire bricks under the kiln legs in order to protect the concrete. Is it necessary? He said since the kiln does not have an exhaust fan at the bottom, the underneath can get very hot. There is 18" clearance between the kiln and the porch walls (made of wood). Is it enough for safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Most kilns have a metal stand does yours?If its a yes and has legs and holds the kiln up about 8 inches you are fine without bricks. if not then you will need space between cement and kiln floor-some cinder blocks and soft bricks will work. 18 inches will work on side but a sheet of tile board (wonder board or duro rock) will be a little extra protection over the wood held in with afew screws. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenyoh Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Yes, the kiln came with a metal stand. Glad to find out I will be fine without bricks. I will look into the tile board you mentioned. Thank you very much, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Water is death to an electric kiln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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