richardmutimer Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Hello - I am planning to send some pots to a client to draw on with glaze pencils. The pots (once drawn on) will need to be sent back to me and I was wondering if anybody knew of any times to prevent smudging the pencil on the bisque-ware; as these pots will need to be safely packaged up. Any help hugely appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Is your plan to put a clear glaze over the drawings and fire them? more details on the whole plan-end results etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinR Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Spraying the drawing with hair spray, then wrapping with soft thin plastic before wrapping for shipping should work. Lin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinR Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 On second thought I don't know that you could glaze over the hair spray but you could rebisque to get rid of the spray. Lin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 richard, are they really GLAZE pencils? i have only seen UNDERglaze pencils, have i been missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 I’ve never known the ones I’m familiar with to smudge that readily on bisque. Usually takes some water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Underglaze pencils wich I have been around for over4 decades come in many colors with cobalt being whats I have used most. I have a porcelain fired same tile with all colors from long ago (same deal with lusters( These pencils are very silly smudged on bisgueware) if that is what you are referring to. If you hairspray them which will protect the glaze pincil will then glaze not stick and you must fire that off before clear glaze coat is applied/ I think that is also a area of handling that makes fro more trouble . How about an homemade inner box that fits the piece and is solid and does not touch the surface of drawing via a well made pot lip/ Then pack that box with padding between in an outer box. When I am around these pencil drawings I usually after the drawing band the piece wth cobalt wash and glaze immedialy with a thin clear glaze like this 10 inch plate fire to cone plate10 . Drawing done by friend I banded and glazed it and made the plate. or these covered jars I made and friend did art work on top -all with pencils and cobalt wash (not the shell pot which is another potters work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Reich Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 I would experiment, or have the artist experiment, with a spare pot to see if wrapping with saran smudges the drawing. Bisquing off hair spray, especially if there are a lot of pots, could be the simplest solution Some pot shapes might be packable in a way that the packing material doesn’t touch the areas that have drawings. If you continue the collaboration, you might want to plan the pots/drawings with transport in mind. Cobalt smudges from underglaze pencils are practically undetectable before firing and they are excruciatingly obvious after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 I've no experience in this area, but has anybody tried starch spray? https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/daily/pottery-making-techniques/ceramic-glazing-techniques/stay-put-glaze-a-great-tip-for-transporting-glazed-pots/ Preventing Smearing of Underglaze Pencils Spray starch was used on this pot to keep the underglaze pencil lines from smearing before it was glazed then fired. More recently, I started using underglaze pencils to add some line work to my functional pieces, but was having a hard time with the powdery pencil marks easily smearing. I decided to experiment on one of my class demo pots, and see if the spray starch would also work under the glaze, fixing the pencil in place so I could paint on clear glaze with worrying about smearing. It worked like a charm. The pencil didn’t smear, and the starch burned off in the kiln, with no side effects (5). Underglaze Smudging and Bleeding – How To Prevent Ithttps://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=pottery+starch+spray A rather more discursive discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 If you're using a brushing glaze, the hair spray may not affect the application too much. Worth testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Pots Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 11:15 AM, PeterH said: I've no experience in this area, but has anybody tried starch spray? https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/daily/pottery-making-techniques/ceramic-glazing-techniques/stay-put-glaze-a-great-tip-for-transporting-glazed-pots/ Preventing Smearing of Underglaze Pencils Spray starch was used on this pot to keep the underglaze pencil lines from smearing before it was glazed then fired. More recently, I started using underglaze pencils to add some line work to my functional pieces, but was having a hard time with the powdery pencil marks easily smearing. I decided to experiment on one of my class demo pots, and see if the spray starch would also work under the glaze, fixing the pencil in place so I could paint on clear glaze with worrying about smearing. It worked like a charm. The pencil didn’t smear, and the starch burned off in the kiln, with no side effects (5). Underglaze Smudging and Bleeding – How To Prevent Ithttps://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=pottery+starch+spray A rather more discursive discussion. This is a bit off topic - can you guide me to some information on how I would ask my own question about transporting pieces to a firing service. Thank you in advance. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinR Posted June 2, 2021 Report Share Posted June 2, 2021 Glazed or unglazed? I have found that for glazed pots a good coat of hair spray then wrapped in soft plastic (veg bags or dry cleaner plastic) then wrap in bubble wrap or what have you. If it for a bisque firing transport them when they are leather hard. Lin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Leigh Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 A 50/50 water/white glue combo works really well, too - but once again, you have that to glaze over unless you burn it off first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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