Shelly M Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Happy New Year to All! I'm trying to come up with a goldenrod or deep yellow-gold colored glaze (gloss or matte) that will work at cone 5/6 in oxidation. I'd like to achieve the color without using stains but am open to all ideas. I'm using it on white stoneware. I'm new to mixing my own glazes and have a library full of books on glazing but can't seem to find a recipe that I like. Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Why don't you want to use stains? That would be the easiest way to do it. Yellows are difficult at best, without using stains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly M Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I have tried using stains in the past but can’t seem to get the right color. Guess I’ll just keep trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Mason 6464 looks the closest to a goldenrod yellow to my eye, have you tried that one? It's not fussy as to the base glaze. How much stain are you using? Reason I ask is with many stains you don't need much to get a nice colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 You can also blend stains to get the color you want. Also try changing the opacity of the glaze it's in, as that can change how the glaze reacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Banks Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 When I was working in oxidation I got mildly infatuated with crystals for a bit. One happy result was a very runny yellow. I was more naive back then and didn't have the luxury of software or 'professional' advice so all excuses aside this was a remarkable yellow as long as you took caution and were prepared for some mishaps. custer feldspar 58 whiting 15 Zinc Oxide 15 copper oxide 1.5 Titanium Dioxide 3 Spodumene 3 Tin Oxide 4 We used it at a 9 but i suspect it might work lower. Potash feldspar might work better - or worse I found something that worked first try and never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, C.Banks said: Potash feldspar might work better - or worse Since custer is a potash spar, thinking you meant a soda feldspar like Minspar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly M Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, C.Banks said: When I was working in oxidation I got mildly infatuated with crystals for a bit. One happy result was a very runny yellow. I was more naive back then and didn't have the luxury of software or 'professional' advice so all excuses aside this was a remarkable yellow as long as you took caution and were prepared for some mishaps. custer feldspar 58 whiting 15 Zinc Oxide 15 copper oxide 1.5 Titanium Dioxide 3 Spodumene 3 Tin Oxide 4 We used it at a 9 but i suspect it might work lower. Potash feldspar might work better - or worse I found something that worked first try and never looked back. this one sounds exciting! I'll try it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly M Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 These are all great suggestions! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly M Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, Min said: Mason 6464 looks the closest to a goldenrod yellow to my eye, have you tried that one? It's not fussy as to the base glaze. How much stain are you using? Reason I ask is with many stains you don't need much to get a nice colour. I think I have that one, if not it's easy to get. Thanks Min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, C.Banks said: When I was working in oxidation I got mildly infatuated with crystals for a bit. One happy result was a very runny yellow. I was more naive back then and didn't have the luxury of software or 'professional' advice so all excuses aside this was a remarkable yellow as long as you took caution and were prepared for some mishaps. custer feldspar 58 whiting 15 Zinc Oxide 15 copper oxide 1.5 Titanium Dioxide 3 Spodumene 3 Tin Oxide 4 We used it at a 9 but i suspect it might work lower. Potash feldspar might work better - or worse I found something that worked first try and never looked back. If this is a crytalline glaze, it will not behave at all like typical glazes. For starters, it has no clay in it, so won't stay suspended in the bucket. Second, crystalline glazes are super runny, to the point that they require a catch basin underneath them to collect them. Firing this cooler, like to cone 6, may solve that problem, but I would still put a dish underneath the first round of tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Banks Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Min said: Since custer is a potash spar, thinking you meant a soda feldspar like Minspar? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Banks Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 48 minutes ago, neilestrick said: If this is a crytalline glaze, it will not behave at all like typical glazes. For starters, it has no clay in it, so won't stay suspended in the bucket. Second, crystalline glazes are super runny, to the point that they require a catch basin underneath them to collect them. Firing this cooler, like to cone 6, may solve that problem, but I would still put a dish underneath the first round of tests. Looking back I did a lot of ill advised stuff. I was younger and didn't know any better. It had issues for certain but the result was worth it, for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 @Shelly M, expanding on what Neil said about blending stains to get the colour you want. I'm working on a chartreuse / pale bright green using stains. In the picture below of my test pieces the first tile is a light green stain, the last is canary yellow the tiles in between are a blend of the two. Takes about 15 minutes to do a blend like this, total stain in each glaze test is 2% which got me in the ballpark of what I want, now I'm fine tuning the amount of stain as I want to reduce the strength of the colour. Easy to do a blend like this if you need to in order to get the goldenrod yellow you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly M Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Min said: @Shelly M, expanding on what Neil said about blending stains to get the colour you want. I'm working on a chartreuse / pale bright green using stains. In the picture below of my test pieces the first tile is a light green stain, the last is canary yellow the tiles in between are a blend of the two. Takes about 15 minutes to do a blend like this, total stain in each glaze test is 2% which got me in the ballpark of what I want, now I'm fine tuning the amount of stain as I want to reduce the strength of the colour. Easy to do a blend like this if you need to in order to get the goldenrod yellow you are looking for. Thanks so much! Nice test tiles. I think this is a good solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 20 hours ago, C.Banks said: Looking back I did a lot of ill advised stuff. I was younger and didn't know any better. It had issues for certain but the result was worth it, for the most part. @C.BanksI don't think it was ill advised at all. This is typical for crystalline glazes, I just wanted @Shelly M to know what to expect from that type of glaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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