Fusionous 0 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 http://i.imgur.com/Qwn2HPQ.jpg This does not look like two clays wedged together... is it color slip or underglaze? How can I achieve this? Advice would be much appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites
Callie Beller Diesel 2,381 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm not getting an image on the link. Link to post Share on other sites
terrim8 202 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think it is 2 clays wedged together. Heavy on the black, light on the white, then maybe a black slip on the interior. Pretty sure it looks like a neatly metal or rubber ribbed surface. Link to post Share on other sites
LeeU 1,301 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 My link was OK--to me it does look like 2 diff bodies,but the image is not particularly sharp. Link to post Share on other sites
Min 3,169 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm going with cast marbled slip. Have a peek at this persons work, looks like the same technique was used. Link to post Share on other sites
terrim8 202 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm going with cast marbled slip. Have a peek at this persons work, looks like the same technique was used. Ah ha! Clever ! Link to post Share on other sites
glazenerd 1,594 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 slip...cannot achieve the "wisp" lines that fade with clay. Nerd Link to post Share on other sites
oldlady 2,716 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 nerd, just saw this while scrolling through some pinterest pages. it is a wet technique that the pot is dipped into. very much like the marbling on endpapers of books. Link to post Share on other sites
What? 84 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Made some very similar to these a long time ago. We colored porcelain slip with something and let it set up a bit. We then mixed a couple or a few of the different colors together lightly wedged and rolled out slabs and used hump and slump mold. When they were near dry we scraped them with a metal rib and it removed the skin of blurred clay away and showed very crisp patterns of agate. It may very well be done in the other described as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Fusionous 0 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm going with cast marbled slip. Have a peek at this persons work, looks like the same technique was used. Thank you for your replies bros and sis! Oh my yes! This is the one! I tried using 2 clay bodies but the effect is wispy at all, therefore is there any method I could try with? Link to post Share on other sites
Fusionous 0 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Made some very similar to these a long time ago. We colored porcelain slip with something and let it set up a bit. We then mixed a couple or a few of the different colors together lightly wedged and rolled out slabs and used hump and slump mold. When they were near dry we scraped them with a metal rib and it removed the skin of blurred clay away and showed very crisp patterns of agate. It may very well be done in the other described as well. The effect with scrapped marble is that it doesn't have the wispy effect, maybe it's like a wet glaze and use something sharp to "draw"? Link to post Share on other sites
Min 3,169 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm going with cast marbled slip. Have a peek at this persons work, looks like the same technique was used. Thank you for your replies bros and sis! Oh my yes! This is the one! I tried using 2 clay bodies but the effect is wispy at all, therefore is there any method I could try with? I don't know the exact method those people used but if I was making those I would take 2 casting slips (made from the same clay), of what ever colours and pour a slowly rotate the 2 slips into the mold. Coating the inside of the mold to the top to create a shell of slip. Once that had set up a little I would then pour an unstained slip into the mold and let it set up until wall thickness is adequate then dump out the mold of excess slip. I'm guessing the excess slip would be slightly stained so might use that for subsequent batches of stained slip. You could fill the mold entirely with a couple stained slips but would land up with a heck of a lot of waste slip that would have to be used up. Oldlady, were you referring to Nemadji Pottery? Link to post Share on other sites
Fusionous 0 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm going with cast marbled slip. Have a peek at this persons work, looks like the same technique was used.Thank you for your replies bros and sis! Oh my yes! This is the one! I tried using 2 clay bodies but the effect is wispy at all, therefore is there any method I could try with? I don't know the exact method those people used but if I was making those I would take 2 casting slips (made from the same clay), of what ever colours and pour a slowly rotate the 2 slips into the mold. Coating the inside of the mold to the top to create a shell of slip. Once that had set up a little I would then pour an unstained slip into the mold and let it set up until wall thickness is adequate then dump out the mold of excess slip. I'm guessing the excess slip would be slightly stained so might use that for subsequent batches of stained slip. You could fill the mold entirely with a couple stained slips but would land up with a heck of a lot of waste slip that would have to be used up. Oldlady, were you referring to Nemadji Pottery? Is it called marbled slip cast? Link to post Share on other sites
oldlady 2,716 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 thank you, min. i never knew about that particular name. what i saw was a small video of someone mixing 2 distinct colors of slip in a bucket. it was only on the surface as though an oil and water effect. someone dipped a pot into the bucket and the swirling colors were picked up and transferred to the pot. it will get warm enough today to be out here on the unheated porch. i will look for it. was on a pinterest page recently posted on this forum. i do not understand pinterest so that is the only way i will find it. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyK 603 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 How about painting the inside of the mold with a pure black slip to get the base color and then blending the painted black with a white slip using a variety of brush strokes to get the marbling effect, then pouring the white casting slip to form the piece in the usual slip casting method? I've seen that kind of coloring when I mix acrylic paints on my palette to blend colors. JohnnyK Link to post Share on other sites
Marcia Selsor 1,859 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yes, what does the inside look like. I am going with a black and white clays wedged together. Marcia Link to post Share on other sites
Callie Beller Diesel 2,381 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I got a good look at the image. Min's idea about the moulds and the casting slips is a good one, but I think the original image is made wth wedged clays that have been thrown like Terri and Marcia suggested. I think both these methods of construction would benefit from having the outer skim of clay trimmed off. Link to post Share on other sites
Mark C. 4,654 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I have friends who are a professional potter couple who made their line of pots back in the 80s by wedging colorants into the porcelain. My mug looks exactly like that in top post on bottom of pot where its not glazed.I think there are many ways to get this look but the easy one is just wedge colorants into the porcelain and then wedge them together-weather its scraped or cut it also has different effects. Marcia, they switched to making functional fish pots and do the billing/and Livingston art shows for past few decades-you should check them out this year. Link to post Share on other sites
LeeU 1,301 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 @ Old Lady---you can search Pinterest the same as we search these forums. In Pinterest, put in your key words (big search bar, top left). I just entered "marble slip clay" and got a bunch of images, several like the one initially posted to begin this thread. Link to post Share on other sites
tanvi504 6 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 If you follow Molly Sanyour ceramics on instagram you'll see she makes bowls very similar to these. She puts different stains in clays and then wedges them together. Even has hyperlapse videos of her doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
ayjay 121 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 @ Old Lady---you can search Pinterest the same as we search these forums. In Pinterest, put in your key words (big search bar, top left). I just entered "marble slip clay" and got a bunch of images, several like the one initially posted to begin this thread. I'm with oldlady on Pinterest: I often search *Google images* and it invariably ends up at Pinterest. Once you get to Pinterest and try and follow any links from there you end up going around in circles. I usually start an image search now with "-Pinterest" in the search term. Link to post Share on other sites
oldlady 2,716 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 thank you, lee. my original thank you was lost. i just miss that darn black box with POST in it somehow. i think i spent an hour last night looking at wonderful images of pots. so many ideas!! Link to post Share on other sites
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